Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I don’t think that’s crazy. Andy had a rep for being a huge playoff choker prior to hooking up with Mahomes and he’d just come off a Belichickesque crash and burn year in Philly.
Huh? Andy Reid has had MUCH more success without a HOF QB than Belichick ever did. Athletic level bad take... [Reply]
crispystl 02-23-2024, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Oh, man, it is crazy.
I’m not going to go back and look, but I want to say that we were around the middle of the pack in regular season win percentage prior to Mahomes. A CPer posted that we’re like #6 or #7 now after updating.
We had 8 AFC West titles before Mahomes compared to 15 for the Broncos, Raiders and Chargers each. Now we’ve got 16, the rest still have 15 :-)
We had one Super Bowl win. Now we’ve got four, which is more than anyone in our division (Raiders and Broncos have three a piece, Chargers have zero lol)
All in just six short years.
The guy is our savior. He damn near single-handedly turned this franchise around. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
Huh? Andy Reid has had MUCH more success without a HOF QB than Belichick ever did. Athletic level bad take...
I talking about his last year in Philly. He went 4-12 in much the same role as Belichick at the tail end of his run in New England. I’m pretty sure Reid handled all player personnel decisions in Philly, no?
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
Carrying Donovan fucking McNabb to a Superbowl wasn't impressive for the brain dead morons who didn't like the hire?
Was anyone really anticipating that he’d find a better QB here in KC? Lol. With our history? Especially after immediately trading for Alex Smith..
All I’m saying is, dude was 10-9 in the postseason prior to coming to KC. 1-4 in NFC Championship games and 0-1 in the Super Bowl. He was basically Kyle Shanahan.
It was a great hire for a floundering franchise as it helped stabilize things and make us respectable again, but I just don’t think it’s weird that some fans, who were starved for a Super Bowl, would question whether or not Reid was a great long term hire. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
Carrying Donovan ****ing McNabb to a Superbowl wasn't impressive for the brain dead morons who didn't like the hire?
Lmao. McNabb was a top 5 statistical qb during those nfc title failures and superbowl loss. He was like 3rd in yards and 4th in tds. With utter shit at wide receiver until the year TO was brought in, alongside borderline refusal to run the football. Andy carried McNabb. Ok dipshit.
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
You need a month long vacation for this post.
I need a month long vacation for stating fact? That's about your speed.
Please, do remind me of all the championships Andy Reid was able to win before Patrick Mahomes.
You'll have an easier time finding his playoff collapses, he owns 2 of the largest in playoff history at 28 and 18 points just with KC. Don't forget that amazing performance where this alleged legendary offensive coach couldn't muster up enough offense to beat a team unable to reach the endzone.
Mahomes has played in 18 post season games and he's been neck deep in shit down 2 scores 11 times. He's 9-2 in those games.
It's pretty safe to say that Andy would have 0 rings without Mahomes. All 3 times he's win superbowls pat has had to come back from down 10.
That tends to happen when you form a habit of wasting first and second down.
That Unicorn wearing number 15 has been able to consistently overcome mistakes and missed opportunities to pull out wins on a level that no other qb in history has come close to.
In all 7 post season opportunities down one score under a minute with answer or go home stakes, Patrick is 7/7.
Brady was 5/11 for comparison.
Andy Reid pre Mahomes was the NFL equivalent to NBA coach George Karl. One of only 9 coaches to win a thousand games with no title. Never got his Michael Jordan to put him over the top.
Does anyone here honestly believe that if Mahomes is kidnapped by aliens to play in the interstellar league the week before the playoffs start, that Big Red could do what Doug Pederson did and make a title run with his backup qb?
No 15, no Superbowl win.
It is what it is. Be offended if you like. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He's also only 71 wins from most wins all time by a HC. That's why the retirement rumors were always dumb.
Andy is 3 years at most from the playoff record and 7 seasons at his current streak.
He's going for it and he's got the best QB ever
If the Chiefs average 12 wins a season (which is not unrealistic) he could pass him in less that 6 seasons. Just stunning. Also no reason to think he won’t pass Bill in playoff wins very soon, although it could take longer depending on how they do in the regular season. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
That's pretty bonkers to me.
Hasn't Belichick gone to NINE Super Bowls? How the hell is he only 5 ahead of Andy? I guess Andy's gone to 5 now, right? But damn, that's just barely half as many. I really assumed Belichick had put that record firmly out of reach.
Remember that Andy went to something like 5 NFCCGs and a SB. Belechick’s numbers are ONLY with Brady. Thats why Andy was much closer than you might have thought. He was winning playoff games in Philly, just not SBs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wallcrawler:
Lmao. McNabb was a top 5 statistical qb during those nfc title failures and superbowl loss. He was like 3rd in yards and 4th in tds. With utter shit at wide receiver until the year TO was brought in, alongside borderline refusal to run the football. Andy carried McNabb. Ok dipshit.
I need a month long vacation for stating fact? That's about your speed.
Please, do remind me of all the championships Andy Reid was able to win before Patrick Mahomes.
You'll have an easier time finding his playoff collapses, he owns 2 of the largest in playoff history at 28 and 18 points just with KC. Don't forget that amazing performance where this alleged legendary offensive coach couldn't muster up enough offense to beat a team unable to reach the endzone.
Mahomes has played in 18 post season games and he's been neck deep in shit down 2 scores 11 times. He's 9-2 in those games.
It's pretty safe to say that Andy would have 0 rings without Mahomes. All 3 times he's win superbowls pat has had to come back from down 10.
That tends to happen when you form a habit of wasting first and second down.
That Unicorn wearing number 15 has been able to consistently overcome mistakes and missed opportunities to pull out wins on a level that no other qb in history has come close to.
In all 7 post season opportunities down one score under a minute with answer or go home stakes, Patrick is 7/7.
Brady was 5/11 for comparison.
Andy Reid pre Mahomes was the NFL equivalent to NBA coach George Karl. One of only 9 coaches to win a thousand games with no title. Never got his Michael Jordan to put him over the top.
Does anyone here honestly believe that if Mahomes is kidnapped by aliens to play in the interstellar league the week before the playoffs start, that Big Red could do what Doug Pederson did and make a title run with his backup qb?
No 15, no Superbowl win.
It is what it is. Be offended if you like.
How many did Lombardi win without Starr?
How about Noll without Bradshaw?
Walsh without Montana?
Jimmy Johnson without Aikman?
Bill without Brady?
Shula without Griese?
Seems to be a trend, which continues to show your unjustified hate for Andy and nothing more. [Reply]
We regressed in the 00's and early 10's until Reid came aboard.
Then with Reid and Mahomes, holy shit we have the best win percentage in football during that time by a mile. This years record actually went slightly backwards! LOL [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Oh, man, it is crazy.
I’m not going to go back and look, but I want to say that we were around the middle of the pack in regular season win percentage prior to Mahomes. A CPer posted that we’re like #6 or #7 now after updating.
We had 8 AFC West titles before Mahomes compared to 15 for the Broncos, Raiders and Chargers each. Now we’ve got 16, the rest still have 15 :-)
We had one Super Bowl win. Now we’ve got four, which is more than anyone in our division (Raiders and Broncos have three a piece, Chargers have zero lol)
All in just six short years.
That could make for a really sweet graphic.
Metric 2017 Chiefs 2024 Chiefs
Regular Season
Playoffs
Division Record
AFCW Titles
AFC Titles
Super Bowls [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wallcrawler:
Does anyone here honestly believe that if Mahomes is kidnapped by aliens to play in the interstellar league the week before the playoffs start, that Big Red could do what Doug Pederson did and make a title run with his backup qb?
No 15, no Superbowl win.
It is what it is. Be offended if you like.
Okay - so go on record.
Will the Chiefs win more Super Bowls after Reid retires than they won with him? We'll do it on a rate basis given that Mahomes will likely play more seasons with Reid than without him.
And sure, he may play some of those years on the backside of his career, but he played the first few on the upswing of it as well. And the new coach will get credit for any development that Reid was responsible for.
So if Reid is just some choking hack who's riding on Mahomes coattails, any sort of replacement level HC should be able to have a GREATER success rate than Reid has, no?
So - go on record. What's our championship success rate going to be with a new coach once Andy retires? Better or worse? [Reply]
315 to nine. ****ing 9 people on this board disliked the hire.
BWillie, unsurprisingly, was among them (Jesus Christ that guy is just ALWAYS wrong). Blackhelicoptors hated everything.
Dirk, Munson and WhiteWhale (who my memory serves was primarly a DC poster) are the only 'credible' votes against Reid.
There has never EVER been that sort of consensus form up around a decision this franchise has made. Even the Mahomes pick wasn't met with that kind of uniform excitement.
No, if you disliked the hire, you're a dipshit of Kietzman, BWillie and Wallcrawler proportions.
I can't believe that poll. It's absolutely insane to have that many people agree on here. Color me shocked about BWillie's vote. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Okay - so go on record.
Will the Chiefs win more Super Bowls after Reid retires than they won with him? We'll do it on a rate basis given that Mahomes will likely play more seasons with Reid than without him.
And sure, he may play some of those years on the backside of his career, but he played the first few on the upswing of it as well. And the new coach will get credit for any development that Reid was responsible for.
So if Reid is just some choking hack who's riding on Mahomes coattails, any sort of replacement level HC should be able to have a GREATER success rate than Reid has, no?
So - go on record. What's our championship success rate going to be with a new coach once Andy retires? Better or worse?
It's gotten to the point that I don't even engage with the dumb bitch, because he has to be trolling at this point. Also he's long winded as fuck and repeats himself over and over again. I'm just looking forward to the 1000 word essay he's about to write and the extremely funny dilphag or whatever he calls me.
