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Titty Meat 11:21 PM 01-19-2024
Y'all want to ride with Smith for another year or give Morris a chance? Because there's probably several good to decent prospects who likely will be there when the Chiefs pick.
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VAChief 09:20 AM 04-09-2024
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Kingsley Suamataia keeps coming to me in mocks. And seems to check all the boxes physically, hes young and a two year starter. Am I missing any major warts?
He might be a good candidate to trade back from 32 if you get an offer to go back a few picks. I dont think he will make it past 40, so there would be risk, but the 2nd round is going to have talent.
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staylor26 09:26 AM 04-09-2024
If we trade up, I think it's for a LT. If we stay put, either Guyton falls into our lap, or we go WR.
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Dunerdr 10:07 AM 04-09-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
If we trade up, I think it's for a LT. If we stay put, either Guyton falls into our lap, or we go WR.
Really wouldn't be that upset with the staying put scenario there depending on what WR is left.
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kcbubb 11:27 AM 04-09-2024
I’m starting to think that Mims might slide to us at 32.Heres an article where the Steelers site discusses guyton or Mims and the risk of Mims injury history is a major flaw.

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/04/mo...-right-tackle/

If GMs are scared of his injury history and need a tackle who can be available, especially considering the talent and depth of this class, maybe mims falls to 32 if he’s the 8th tackle selected? I think this would be perfect for us if Mims fell to 32. Or trade up slightly to pick right after Morgan is drafted. We could resign Smith and let Mims develop behind him. We’d have a lot of depth across the oline.

1. Alt ND
2. Fashanu penn state
3. Fuaga Oregon state
4. Latham Bama
5. Fautanu Wash
6. Guyton OK
7. Morgan AZ
8. Mims GA
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kcbubb 11:41 AM 04-09-2024
If you look at draft history, you’d normally expect 5 OTs taken in the first round in a heavy offensive tackle draft. Take a look below.

Year No. Round Pick Player Name Team College
2023 1 1 6 6 Paris Johnson Cardinals Ohio State
2 1 10 10 Darnell Wright Bears Tennessee
3 1 14 14 Broderick Jones Steelers Georgia
4 1 27 27 Anton Harrison Jaguars Oklahoma

2022 1 1 6 6 Ikem Ekwonu Panthers North Carolina State
2 1 7 7 Evan Neal Giants Alabama
3 1 9 9 Charles Cross Seahawks Mississippi State
4 1 19 19 Trevor Penning Saints Northern Iowa
5 1 24 24 Tyler Smith Cowboys Tulsa

2021 1 1 7 7 Penei Sewell Lions Oregon
2 1 17 17 Alex Leatherwood Raiders Alabama
3 1 23 23 Christian Darrisaw Vikings Virginia Tech

2020 1 1 4 4 Andrew Thomas Giants Georgia
2 1 10 10 Jedrick Wills Browns Alabama
3 1 11 11 Mekhi Becton Jets Louisville
4 1 13 13 Tristan Wirfs Buccaneers Iowa
5 1 18 18 Austin Jackson Dolphins USC
6 1 29 29 Isaiah Wilson Titans Georgia

2019 1 1 11 11 Jonah Williams Bengals Alabama
2 1 22 22 Andre Dillard Eagles Washington State
3 1 23 23 Tytus Howard Texans Alabama State
4 1 31 31 Kaleb McGary Falcons Washington

2018 1 1 9 9 Mike McGlinchey 49ers Notre Dame
2 1 15 15 Kolton Miller Raiders UCLA
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Chiefnj2 01:04 PM 04-09-2024
KC is in a tough spot to grab a LT. Unless a Mims or Guyton slide, they will likely have to grab someone from the next tier of players. There will likely be "safer" WR's available.
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O.city 01:12 PM 04-09-2024
Yeah, I kinda look at it not as much in the numbers but the amount. There's gonna be 4/5 go, but looking at the list, if the guy isn't an elite prospect, the difference in the first and the 5th isn't a huge gap in terms of success.

So we need to evaluate it well for what we're looking for and go that way.
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Dunerdr 01:16 PM 04-09-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah, I kinda look at it not as much in the numbers but the amount. There's gonna be 4/5 go, but looking at the list, if the guy isn't an elite prospect, the difference in the first and the 5th isn't a huge gap in terms of success.

So we need to evaluate it well for what we're looking for and go that way.
That's kind of an odd way to put it. There's only going to be one or two elite tackle prospects per draft and you'll never draft high enough with a Mahomes team to have a chance. The odds of finding a difference making WR in other rounds are much higher than the odds of a top tier tackle. Both groups have pretty good depth but there's 2x as many receivers I'd be happy with than Tackles in this draft.
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Chiefnj2 01:18 PM 04-09-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah, I kinda look at it not as much in the numbers but the amount. There's gonna be 4/5 go, but looking at the list, if the guy isn't an elite prospect, the difference in the first and the 5th isn't a huge gap in terms of success.

So we need to evaluate it well for what we're looking for and go that way.
The bigger problem is that the 2nd tier of tackles might be picked through by the time KC drafts at the end of the 2nd. I consider the 2nd tier to be: Morgan (might be guard), Suamataia, Fisher, Paul and the kid from Yale who was injured most of the season and didn't face great competition.
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Dunerdr 01:20 PM 04-09-2024
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
The bigger problem is that the 2nd tier of tackles might be picked through by the time KC drafts at the end of the 2nd. I consider the 2nd tier to be: Morgan (might be guard), Suamataia, Fisher, Paul and the kid from Yale who was injured most of the season and didn't face great competition.
Basically at 32 I think you start the tier two tackle run and the tier 3 receiver run.
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kccrow 03:00 PM 04-09-2024
I think the fanbase is so caught up on the need at WR that we understate the importance of an LT. It's one of the most critical positions on the team and one of the most difficult to adequately fill, especially long-term. I fully support a move-up for an LT all day over worrying about WRs. I would not be exaggerating if I said that I don't care if Veach waits until round 3 to address WR if it means getting an LT.

Now, that doesn't mean I support reaching or chancing it on an LT if we stay at 32 and bypass better talent at another position, which is likely to be WR or CB in this draft.
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Balto 03:42 PM 04-09-2024
So either trade up or trade down at #32 is the best way to go.
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ForeverChiefs58 03:58 PM 04-09-2024
30 offensive linemen currently set to make at least $15 per season in average annual salary as 2024 NFL free agency begins, led by an offensive lineman who is earning an average of $25 million per season.

Eight offensive linemen are set to make at least $20 million a season.


NFL's highest-paid offensive linemen in 2024 (average salary per year) and where they were drafted:

1. Texans OL Laremy Tunsil: $25 million. In 2016, the Dolphins selected Tunsil with the 13th overall selection in the 2016 NFL Draft.

2. Giants OL Andrew Thomas: $23.5 million. Thomas was selected by the New York Giants with the fourth overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft.

3. 49ers OL Trent Williams: $23.01 million. Williams entered the league in the 2010 NFL Draft after he was selected in the first round with the number 4 overall pick by the then-Washington Redskins.

4. Packers OL David Bakhtiari: $23 million. The Green Bay Packers selected Bakhtiari in the fourth round, (109th overall) of the 2013 NFL Draft.

5. Falcons OL Chris Lindstrom: $20.5 million. Lindstrom was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons with the 14th overall pick in the first round of the 2019 NFL draft.

6. Eagles OL Lane Johnson: $20.2 million. The Eagles selected Johnson in the first round (fourth overall) of the 2013 NFL draft. He was the third offensive tackle selected in 2013, behind Central Michigan's Eric Fisher and Texas A&M's Luke Joeckel.

6. Indianapolis Colts OL Quenton Nelson: $20 million. The Indianapolis Colts selected Nelson in the first round (sixth overall) of the 2018 NFL draft.

6. Chiefs OL Jawaan Taylor: $20 million. a second-round pick (35th overall) by the Jacksonville Jaguars in the 2019 NFL Draft.

9. Ravens OL Ronnie Stanley: $19.8 million. Baltimore Ravens in the 1st round (6th overall) of the 2016 NFL Draft.

10. Saints OL Ryan Ramczyk: $19.2 million. The New Orleans Saints selected Ramczyk in the first round (32nd overall) of the 2017 NFL draft.
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poolboy 04:02 PM 04-09-2024
what are we doing at LT? Are we counting on a rookie at 32 to protect Pat?
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Balto 04:12 PM 04-09-2024
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
Im starting to think that Mims might slide to us at 32.Heres an article where the Steelers site discusses guyton or Mims and the risk of Mims injury history is a major flaw.

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/04/mo...-right-tackle/

If GMs are scared of his injury history and need a tackle who can be available, especially considering the talent and depth of this class, maybe mims falls to 32 if hes the 8th tackle selected? I think this would be perfect for us if Mims fell to 32. Or trade up slightly to pick right after Morgan is drafted. We could resign Smith and let Mims develop behind him. Wed have a lot of depth across the oline.

1. Alt ND
2. Fashanu penn state
3. Fuaga Oregon state
4. Latham Bama
5. Fautanu Wash
6. Guyton OK
7. Morgan AZ
8. Mims GA
That would be fantastic but I just don't see teams drafting Guyton or Morgan before Mims even with the injury considerations.

I won't be surprised to see Mims be the 4th-6th OT taken and if we want him late teens might have to be the target area for a trade up.
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