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Lenny "The Cool" Lounge>Frank Clark fucking sucks
RealSNR 02:33 PM 09-15-2019
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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-King- 10:44 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Justin Houston in KC:

1 AFCCG, 0 Super Bowls

Frank Clark in KC:

2 AFCCG, 2 Super Bowls
That's disingenuous don't you think? You don't think the chiefs would have won any Superbowls if they had Mahomes 2013 to 2017 (yes I know he was on the team 2017, but he wasn't starting)?

He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.
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-King- 10:47 AM 02-04-2021
Btw, before Staylor comes in here pumped full of Mountain Dew energy, me talking up Houston has nothing to do with Clark right now. Clark played great in the AFCCG.
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Red Dawg 10:49 AM 02-04-2021
PFF can suck balls. Every move Veach made is completely justified because we won the SB. Thats all that matters. Clark was huge in the plYoffs and Houston is not, end of story.
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Hammock Parties 10:52 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.
Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.
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smithandrew051 10:54 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.
His stat line in that AFCCG was horrible.

95 snaps, 2 tackles, 0 QB Hits, 0 TFL, 0 sacks.
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-King- 10:54 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Or maybe if Houston had gotten off his ass and sacked Brady?

Houston ALWAYS sucked dick against NE.
I agree. He had a bad game. He's sacked Brady 4 in 3 other games though.
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KChiefs1 10:58 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
His stat line in that AFCCG was horrible.

95 snaps, 2 tackles, 0 QB Hits, 0 TFL, 0 sacks.
The entire defense was pretty bad that day. That's why Spags is here now. :-)
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htismaqe 10:59 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
That's disingenuous don't you think? You don't think the chiefs would have won any Superbowls if they had Mahomes 2013 to 2017 (yes I know he was on the team 2017, but he wasn't starting)?

He also would have went to and I bet won the Superbowl if Dee Ford didn't line up offsides in 2018.
It's no more disingenuous than any of the other arguments.

At least it's based on actual results and not some knee jerk emotional reaction like that tweet.
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Marcellus 11:00 AM 02-04-2021

Frank Clark turns it up in the playoffs...

Stats Past 2 Postseasons - (NFL Rank)

7 Sacks (1st)
8 TFL (1st)
21 Pressures (2nd) #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/MeRPaGgRIo

— CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) February 4, 2021

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Megatron96 11:03 AM 02-04-2021
I don't have any hate for Houston. In fact, I'm pretty sure in the weeks before the Clark trade was announced, I advocated for possibly keeping him.

But his performance in the playoffs historically wasn't great. You could even say that he was largely invisible for the most part. How much of that was him, and how much of that was Sutton's scheme/inability to make in-game adjustments, or even to use Houston better than he did are all matters that could be up for debate. But the bottom line is Houston wasn't a playoff game performer during his time with KC.

Frank Clark has played really big in the playoffs, and seemingly bigger when the lights were brightest and on the biggest stages. Clark is a winner, period.
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Willie Lanier 11:06 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
PFF can suck balls. Every move Veach made is completely justified because we won the SB. Thats all that matters. Clark was huge in the plYoffs and Houston is not, end of story.
Without a doubt, can we just kill this fucking narrative?
Who spends this much time trying to find cracks in their own foundation of talent?

Get a fucking life
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-King- 11:07 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It's no more disingenuous than any of the other arguments.

At least it's based on actual results and not some knee jerk emotional reaction like that tweet.
Using team success to measure the difference the player is disingenuous. Ben Neimann has more AFCCG and superbowl wins than Derrick Johnson. What does that mean?

I think Clark has been better than Houston in the playoffs, but using team wins as a way of proving that is dumb.
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staylor26 11:09 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
This is all that matters and all that needs to be said.
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ThaVirus 11:09 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
He had a sack in the titans game and 2 in the Indy game.
Would have had a fumble recovery (and possibly a TD) if not for the forward progress ruling, too.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
You'd have to include time Clark's spent playing with a hefty lead to make the comparison more fair.
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The Franchise 11:12 AM 02-04-2021
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Would have had a fumble recovery (and possibly a TD) if not for the forward progress ruling, too.



You'd have to include time Clark's spent playing with a hefty lead to make the comparison more fair.
So it doesnít matter if itís just stats. You need to add an asterisk to every lead that Clark has. Got it.
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