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GloryDayz 04:19 PM 03-14-2017
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Best way to kill weeds other than roundup, pulling them manually. ?
Not nutsedge! And the nutsedge spray can kill the grass too (and not the nutsedge, and me, my problem spots are because of just that.

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Buehler445 05:36 PM 03-14-2017
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Well I have a big rock planter that runs along the back of my house. Then I have a trellis and walk way that goes along the side of my house where I do not have grass on that entire side of the home. It's just a mixture of small trees, shrubs, and natural grasses. But last summer it started to get over run by weeds and I could not control it.

The rock planter seems like it would be the easiest thing to clean up, figured I would just put weed mat down and put in new rock since no plants are in there anyway, but i can't keep up with all the weeds elsewhere. No worry in my yard area though. Just put pre emergent down and have been all good there. I've tried roundup on the weeds but it doesn't seem to kill them very well and the stuff you buy at Lowes or Home Depot doesn't go very far.
If you're going to leave it bare get primatol.

If not loochys solution is the way to go. Heat it up. Some phenoxy herbicides would help. Those are 2-4D or Dicamba. If you cant get those get weed b gone concentrate and add it to the mix. The phenoxy herbicides make it grow fast (faster than it can support and kills it). Don't use the full rate but supplementing glyphosate with a phenoxy will allow it to translocate to the roots faster.

Odds are the glyphosate you end up with will have the appropriate adjuvants but adding some non-ionic surfactant will help. If you can't get it add a little dish soap.

Early is better if you can nuke it before it gets established it will be easier to kill.

Glyphosate and phenoxy herbicides won't have any residual, meaning it won't stop new weeds from coming. Primatol will. But if you're going to plant anything else it will kill it too.
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2112 07:04 PM 04-08-2017
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Not nutsedge! And the nutsedge spray can kill the grass too (and not the nutsedge, and me, my problem spots are because of just that.

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Nutsedge sucks. It grows two feet high in two days and grows in clusters. You have to nip it in the bud before it gets well established or it will continue to spread year by year and it is very hard to get rid of once its established and it looks like shit even after you spray it. Nutsedge is the debil
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HonestChieffan 10:39 AM 04-09-2017
Originally Posted by D2112:
Nutsedge sucks. It grows two feet high in two days and grows in clusters. You have to nip it in the bud before it gets well established or it will continue to spread year by year and it is very hard to get rid of once its established and it looks like shit even after you spray it. Nutsedge is the debil

Sedgehammer is amazing, safe to grass and will toast nutsedge.
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GloryDayz 05:17 PM 04-09-2017
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan:
Sedgehammer is amazing, safe to grass and will toast nutsedge.
Hmmmmmmmmm. I've tried it, I'm doing something wrong I guess. I've even add the blue, and the sticky shit every time I've tried. But every year it seem to kill more grass than weed.

I think the grass struggles in that patch anyway because it reflects off a window, but the nutsedge seems to survive.

FML!!!!
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cabletech94 06:21 PM 03-14-2017
so i've got bermuda grass invading a large perennial garden. i don't want to kill the good stuff, but want to stop the bermuda.
suggestions?

SouthEastKansas.
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loochy 07:45 PM 03-14-2017
Originally Posted by cabletech94:
so i've got bermuda grass invading a large perennial garden. i don't want to kill the good stuff, but want to stop the bermuda.
suggestions?

SouthEastKansas.
You can't stop the bermuda. The best bet is to get a spray bottle of roundup, set it to spray a jet, and hit the invading runners. You can try to pull the bermuda too, but the roots run deep and long. Either way, it'll creep back in a few weeks. It's tough stuff.

Also, maybe youcan try a plastic barrier buried around the edge. We have a 5 inch plastic edge around our flower beds and it does a reasonable job of slowing the bermuda runners.
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Buehler445 07:55 PM 03-14-2017
Originally Posted by loochy:
You can't stop the bermuda. The best bet is to get a spray bottle of roundup, set it to spray a jet, and hit the invading runners. You can try to pull the bermuda too, but the roots run deep and long. Either way, it'll creep back in a few weeks. It's tough stuff.

Also, maybe youcan try a plastic barrier buried around the edge. We have a 5 inch plastic edge around our flower beds and it does a reasonable job of slowing the bermuda runners.
This man knows.

You can get a paintbrush and paint it on.

Best bet is weed barrier.
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lewdog 10:56 AM 03-18-2017
Cherry tomato plant is already massive and giving me 100+ tomatoes.




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HemiEd 09:09 AM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Cherry tomato plant is already massive and giving me 100+ tomatoes.
I planted a couple varieties of cherry tomatoes last year and that was my favorite. Can't remember the name though.

I put out my tomato plants a couple days ago after the 24 degree night. I started these from seeds in January and have had them in the south windows.
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lewdog 10:45 AM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by HemiEd:
I planted a couple varieties of cherry tomatoes last year and that was my favorite. Can't remember the name though.

I put out my tomato plants a couple days ago after the 24 degree night. I started these from seeds in January and have had them in the south windows.
Looks great! That's one bad thing about being in suburbia, not a lot of space to do much here.

I am always just amazed at how big these cherry tomato plants get. Mine get 7' tall each year and really bush out, taking over much of the small garden I have.

Do you do the straight red cherry tomatoes or do you mix in some of the golden varieties?
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HemiEd 11:16 AM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Looks great! That's one bad thing about being in suburbia, not a lot of space to do much here.

I am always just amazed at how big these cherry tomato plants get. Mine get 7' tall each year and really bush out, taking over much of the small garden I have.

Do you do the straight red cherry tomatoes or do you mix in some of the golden varieties?
Last year I just bought three different kinds of cherry tomatoes, two had an egg shape and one of them was round like yours. I want to find those round ones again this year, they were by far the best. I am not sure what you mean by the golden variety?

The six plants I put in are beef steak seeds . All of the seeds I planted came up, so I gave some to others. I don't want to make the same mistake I made the last two years of planting too many.
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lewdog 11:20 AM 03-19-2017
Originally Posted by HemiEd:
Last year I just bought three different kinds of cherry tomatoes, two had an egg shape and one of them was round like yours. I want to find those round ones again this year, they were by far the best. I am not sure what you mean by the golden variety?

The six plants I put in are beef steak seeds . All of the seeds I planted came up, so I gave some to others. I don't want to make the same mistake I made the last few years of planting too many.
The super sweet cherry 100 tomatoes are the best. Look for those. Plus they produce tons from one plant.

https://bonnieplants.com/product/sup...et-100-tomato/

Golden variety are just that, yellow cherry tomatoes. Same size and shape, but slightly different taste.




If I had as much room as you I'd do a golden cherry plant and a super sweet cherry tomato plant.

Beefsteak tomatoes are great too! With that many plants you're gonna have pounds of tomatoes!
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KS Smitty 03:03 PM 03-19-2017
Sun Sugar is the best variety of yellow cherry tomatoes. There's also a yellow pear tomato that's a mini tomato also has really good flavor. I agree with lewdog super sweet 100's are the best cherry tomato, not sweet millions, sweet 100's. I haven't found a grape shaped tomato that I like as well as cherry shaped ones.
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DMAC 04:36 PM 03-19-2017
Has anyone addressed moles? Are there any tried and true methods to extinction?
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