Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by stumppy:
I did a little bit of mowing, can't do much nowadays. Then supervised my grandsons' first time mowing a yard. He'll be an expert mower in a month or two.:-)
I just drove from my brother's house in Independence to my house in Brookside, via the route I would take from the stadium, down past the shriners temple, then past L.C.'s. Right when I got off 435 there were at least 100 cars all driving in groups very unsafely, blocking traffic making unscheduled uturns, crashing into each other. I saw at least 5 accidents, only three cop cars total and at least 500 cars cruising, blocking intersections, driving into parking lots all the way to 71. The smell of gunpowder was in the air. The virus has hit the African American community hardest of all and they are justifiably angry. I just hope that protests like this stop because this particular protest put my life in danger and I had to use some pretty extreme maneuvers to get myself to safety. I get the frustration and understand everyones predicament but getting in your cars and wrecking into each other so insurance companies get to charge all of us more is not a path to social change. Never has been, never will be. [Reply]
Originally Posted by bringbackmarty:
I just drove from my brother's house in Independence to my house in Brookside, via the route I would take from the stadium, down past the shriners temple, then past L.C.'s. Right when I got off 435 there were at least 100 cars all driving in groups very unsafely, blocking traffic making unscheduled uturns, crashing into each other. I saw at least 5 accidents, only three cop cars total and at least 500 cars cruising, blocking intersections, driving into parking lots all the way to 71. The smell of gunpowder was in the air. The virus has hit the African American community hardest of all and they are justifiably angry. I just hope that protests like this stop because this particular protest put my life in danger and I had to use some pretty extreme maneuvers to get myself to safety. I get the frustration and understand everyones predicament but getting in your cars and wrecking into each other so insurance companies get to charge all of us more is not a path to social change. Never has been, never will be.
WTF? I had no idea shit like this was going on anywhere. [Reply]
Originally Posted by bringbackmarty:
I just drove from my brother's house in Independence to my house in Brookside, via the route I would take from the stadium, down past the shriners temple, then past L.C.'s. Right when I got off 435 there were at least 100 cars all driving in groups very unsafely, blocking traffic making unscheduled uturns, crashing into each other. I saw at least 5 accidents, only three cop cars total and at least 500 cars cruising, blocking intersections, driving into parking lots all the way to 71. The smell of gunpowder was in the air. The virus has hit the African American community hardest of all and they are justifiably angry. I just hope that protests like this stop because this particular protest put my life in danger and I had to use some pretty extreme maneuvers to get myself to safety. I get the frustration and understand everyones predicament but getting in your cars and wrecking into each other so insurance companies get to charge all of us more is not a path to social change. Never has been, never will be.
Everyone needs to grow the fuck up and act like adults, this virus is a real thing, you don't want to get it. If you get it and get an initial exposure that features enough of the virus that it overwhelms your immune system in days 4-10 you will almost die or die. It's more infectious and deadly than most because of the asymptomatic transmission factor and what at this point looks like a limited immunity from reinfection at best. It's not going to go away unless we make it go away. The best way to do that is to stay the fuck home and study the fuck up on how to live with this. People who have no money and are being affected more by this need to be protected more. The economy will shrink, as will our population, birth rate, gdp and everything else. We are all going to have to be more humble, live with less, be more patient and kind. It's a huge bag of dicks to swallow for a lot of people, I get it. But with this one, we are all going to have to eat a huge bag of dicks. Fuck the politics, nobody deserves to die of this shit, alone, without your family there not able to breathe. [Reply]
Originally Posted by bringbackmarty:
I just drove from my brother's house in Independence to my house in Brookside, via the route I would take from the stadium, down past the shriners temple, then past L.C.'s. Right when I got off 435 there were at least 100 cars all driving in groups very unsafely, blocking traffic making unscheduled uturns, crashing into each other. I saw at least 5 accidents, only three cop cars total and at least 500 cars cruising, blocking intersections, driving into parking lots all the way to 71. The smell of gunpowder was in the air. The virus has hit the African American community hardest of all and they are justifiably angry. I just hope that protests like this stop because this particular protest put my life in danger and I had to use some pretty extreme maneuvers to get myself to safety. I get the frustration and understand everyones predicament but getting in your cars and wrecking into each other so insurance companies get to charge all of us more is not a path to social change. Never has been, never will be.
And yes there was mass cruising on Eastwood -> the plaza tonight that rivaled Noland road back in the day. Main difference - nobody was following any kind of rules of the road. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I drank a bunch of Budweiser and cut and burned brush all afternoon, then pulled weeds outta my garden (my peas and corn is sprouting nicely, cucumbers and squash slowly but surely) then figured out how I’m gonna build fence to be able to keep a few cows.
If you guys have a chance, get outside and do something it helps
I hit a small bucket of balls today, and it tired me out. But damn it was fun to flush a few. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I drank a bunch of Budweiser and cut and burned brush all afternoon, then pulled weeds outta my garden (my peas and corn is sprouting nicely, cucumbers and squash slowly but surely) then figured out how I’m gonna build fence to be able to keep a few cows.
If you guys have a chance, get outside and do something it helps
Oh yeah. I get outside a little every day but Sundays are my biggest outdoors day. The Mrs and I walked a 5K this morning, then I worked in the front “yard”(rocks with mixed in desert plants)for an hour. Then I took my 11 year old on a nature walk through a series of man made little lakes by our neighborhood. Got home, hung around, ate and capped it off with the Mrs and I doing an early evening 1.5 mile walk.
Today was a good day. My wife is in an outstanding mood so I may get a little more exercise before this one is all said and done. �� [Reply]
