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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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RustShack 04:24 PM 08-24-2021
Originally Posted by sedated:
Having BYU and UCF in the same conference would be a logistical issue. They'd have to pick a side of the country.

It doesn't matter anyway, after hearing the statements after the alliance meetings, the Big 12 is done. At least a few of the schools sounds like they will have landing spots.
I don’t think it comes down to Big12 expansion either.
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KChiefs1 06:26 PM 08-24-2021
Originally Posted by TribalElder:
Mizzou moving to the SEC looks like such a smart decision now

wow

Brilliant move.
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Hoover 06:28 PM 08-24-2021
Big 12 goes bust the second Kansas joins the ACC and is part of the alliance. With only 15 teams in the ACC, they need one more to ease the scheduling. Kansas gets saved, the other 7 are fucked IMO
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RustShack 06:52 PM 08-24-2021
Originally Posted by Hoover:
Big 12 goes bust the second Kansas joins the ACC and is part of the alliance. With only 15 teams in the ACC, they need one more to ease the scheduling. Kansas gets saved, the other 7 are fucked IMO
Lol good one.
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Prison Bitch 07:06 PM 08-24-2021
Originally Posted by RustShack:
Lol good one.
Thinks boo clones going BIG^
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Titty Meat 08:27 PM 08-24-2021
What's does any of this change? I've read just a bunch of flub. Academics, scheduling eachother in non-con, etc. Dont see how this changes much.
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Prison Bitch 08:56 PM 08-24-2021
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
What's does any of this change? I've read just a bunch of flub. Academics, scheduling eachother in non-con, etc. Dont see how this changes much.
The 3 leagues have to pretend they’re actually doing something, even tho they aren’t.
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BWillie 01:03 AM 08-25-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
They wouldn’t. PAC has the most wonderful markets in the country. Yes they’re pro sports markets primarily, but still the best ones. The only Irate8 school who even fits is Kansas and it’s too far logistically to take unless they did a hoops-only (Or hoops-FB only) deal.




They massively screwed the pooch not getting Texas and OU. Even if they had to swallow Tech and Okie Light.
I am a big fan of the usage of screw the pooch verbiage.
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Bearcat 12:33 PM 08-25-2021
Didn't see it mentioned here, but read on The Athletic that OU and Texas still have voting rights in the B12 if they were to vote on expansion. :-) :-)
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sedated 01:24 PM 08-25-2021
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Didn't see it mentioned here, but read on The Athletic that OU and Texas still have voting rights in the B12 if they were to vote on expansion. :-) :-)
JFC

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if Texas insisted that was added to the grant of rights. Its almost like their intentional goal has been to destroy the Big 12 for the last 20 years.
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sedated 01:27 PM 08-25-2021
One thing I don't get about the expansion rumors is why none of the Texas schools have been mentioned. Baylor and TCU I can sort of get because of the religious factor, but Texas has always been the main goal for expansion so having all the Texas schools out there (and add Houston to make an even 4) seems strange. That group could be a pretty major haul for a conference.
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Pitt Gorilla 01:37 PM 08-25-2021
I don't understand why other schools didn't make more of an attempt to jump ship when Mizzou, A&M, Neb, and CO left. They had to know that TX and OK were going to bolt at some point in the near future.
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Prison Bitch 01:51 PM 08-25-2021

Official: The ACC - Big Ten - Pac-12 Alliance has been assembled.

pic.twitter.com/VUj7yOKh8P

— Austin Pendergist (@apthirteen) August 24, 2021

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Eleazar 01:55 PM 08-25-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I don't understand why other schools didn't make more of an attempt to jump ship when Mizzou, A&M, Neb, and CO left. They had to know that TX and OK were going to bolt at some point in the near future.
That was always the story of the Big 12. Polished Bevo’s jewels for 25 years, only to be discarded like a cigarette butt.
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Titty Meat 02:02 PM 08-25-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I don't understand why other schools didn't make more of an attempt to jump ship when Mizzou, A&M, Neb, and CO left. They had to know that TX and OK were going to bolt at some point in the near future.
You had clueless people like PB giving money to their schools telling them to stay
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