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Nzoner's Game Room>What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2
dlphg9 05:43 AM 02-17-2021
Spoiler alert!

Nothing is wrong with him! Unless you consider Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce as being a problem.

Mecole was 3rd on the team in targets (62), rec yards (560), and rec TDs (4). Those stats are right in line with any other teams 3rd most productive receiver and none of those other teams had 2 guys that were 1st team AP in front of that guy.

Green Bay Packers #1 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Robert Tonyan - 59 targets, 52 rec, 586 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 212
Rec - 148
Yards - 2064

Buffalo Bills #2 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Gabriel Davis - 62 targets, 35 rec, 599 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 273
Rec - 209
Yards - 2502

Tampa Bay Buccaneers #3 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Rob Gronkowski - 77 targets, 45 rec, 623 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 193
Rec - 135
Yards - 1846

Tennessee Titans #4 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jonnu Smith - 65 targets, 41 rec, 448 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 198
Rec - 135
Yards - 2059

New Orleans Saints #5 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jared Cook - 60 targets, 37 rec, 504 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 189
Rec - 144
Yards - 1482

Baltimore Ravens #7 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Willie Snead - 48 targets, 33 rec, 432 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 188
Rec - 116
Yards - 1470

Seattle Seahawks #8 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
David Moore - 47 targets, 35 rec, 417 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 261
Rec - 183
Yards - 2357

Indianapolis Colts #9 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Michael Pittman Jr. - 61 targets, 40 rec, 503 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 164
Rec - 99
Yards - 1391

Las Vegas Raiders #10 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Hunter Renfrow - 77 targets, 56 rec, 656 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 227
Rec - 155
Yards - 2092

Average for top 10 scoring offense's 3rd most productive receiving option :

Targets - 62
Receptions - 41
Yards - 530

Average for top 10 scoring offense's top 2 most productive receiving options combined :

Targets - 212
Receptions - 147
Yards - 1918


This is how Hardman stacks up against the other teams 3rd receiving option

Targets - 62 (62 avg)
Receptions - 41 (41 avg)
Yards - 560 (530 avg)

Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce combined

Targets - 280 (most in group)
Receptions - 192 (2nd most in group)
Yards - 2692 (most in group)

So what we can see from these stats above is that nothing is up with Mecole Hardman. His targets and reception matched the average of the 9 other top offenses 3rd receiving option and he was above average in yards, but the big huge difference is Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill just happen to be on the same team as him. Those two have 68 more combined targets, 45 more combined receptions, and 774 more combined yards than the others teams top 2 receiving threats.

TLDR;

Nothing is wrong, he's right in line with the other teams 3rd most productive pass catchers. Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are monsters and the best pass catching duo in a long ass time.

PS:

Seriously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are so good! There was only 11 QBs with more TD passes than those 2 had receiving TDs.

PSS:

Fucking Cam Newton started 15 games and had 45 less passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards in the same amount of games!

PSSS:

Fucking MVP Lamar had 65 more passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards and they tied for the same amount of passing TDs to receiving TDs.
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Hammock Parties 07:47 PM 10-15-2021
this will probably never happen, but i'd love for him to bulk up and play RB
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Tribal Warfare 11:43 PM 10-15-2021
To be honest it truly seems like Hardman doesn't take his craft seriously making rookie mistakes, thus pissing Mahomes off and only trusts' Tyreek and Travis to make the catch
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T-post Tom 12:06 AM 10-16-2021
Let Hardman run more deep routes as a decoy. (Rather than Hill.) He can pull one or more safeties deep. Open things up for the others. Anything to get Hill/Kelce less attention from the opposing defense. Go route. Post. Skinny post. Rinse. Repeat. Open up the underneath for those that know where & when to be in their routes.
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Rainbarrel 06:58 AM 10-16-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
yay

Nov 2 trade deadline fodder? Some team could use him, but enough?
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-King- 11:12 PM 10-18-2021
Two good games in a row. If Gordon can take the WR2 role, Hardman can be dangerous facing the opposing teams 4th best corner.
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Rasputin 11:18 PM 10-18-2021
For the record I still like him and still have high hopes for many big plays in his career as a Chief and help us win Super Bowls.



If they get rid of him it won't hurt my feelings but will remember him in high regards for his contributions his rookie season that helped bless us with a Super Bowl LIV victory and game changing momentum in the playoffs.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01:31 AM 10-19-2021
He’s been a lot better this year than last
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Hammock Parties 08:16 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
He’s been a lot better this year than last
One bomb doesn't change a mostly disappointing season.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 08:41 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
One bomb doesn't change a mostly disappointing season.
He has as many catches as his first year and has more than half his total last year and it’s only week 6. His average is way down but he’s becoming more of a possession receiver
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wachashi 08:52 AM 10-19-2021
He made that awesome grab down the sideline against WFT and I was ready to get my hopes up with Hardman again. Then he fumbled shortly after. Those vertical throws on the sideline will be there against a Cover 2 favoring Hill/Kelce. And oftentimes it will be against a team's third-best coverage player.
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Hammock Parties 08:56 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
He has as many catches as his first year and has more than half his total last year and it’s only week 6. His average is way down but he’s becoming more of a possession receiver
He's a gadget dumpoff guy....that is not a possession receiver. Mecole has made maybe three plays over 10 air yards this year.

Travis Kelce is a possession receiver.
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DRM08 09:25 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by wachashi:
He made that awesome grab down the sideline against WFT and I was ready to get my hopes up with Hardman again. Then he fumbled shortly after. Those vertical throws on the sideline will be there against a Cover 2 favoring Hill/Kelce. And oftentimes it will be against a team's third-best coverage player.
He also had the deep ball sideline play against Buffalo. Very fortunate to get his toe down inbounds on that one, but it's still 2 games in a row with those type of deep plays for him. The fumble against Redskins was a bummer though. The whole team seems to be snakebit with that stuff this year.
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RealSNR 09:14 PM 10-24-2021
And then there's THIS asshole!

I was patient, but now I'm done. Fuck this guy.

I was done with Conley when he couldn't hang on to the fucking football. And now I'm done with Fartface Hardman.
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comochiefsfan 09:17 PM 10-24-2021
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
And then there's THIS asshole!

I was patient, but now I'm done. **** this guy.

I was done with Conley when he couldn't hang on to the ****ing football. And now I'm done with Fartface Hardman.
Metcalf, Johnson, McLaurin.

We got Hardman.

Good fucking job Veach.
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lewdog 09:19 PM 10-24-2021
Can't find a solid Number 2 WR for this team!
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