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ROYC75 09:55 PM 11-23-2021
I have no clue if this is correct, shit is over my pay scale but it friggin makes sense. Read on with an open mind!

Got this from my buddy Mark Reed... an interesting take on Electric Cars.

ďAs an engineer I love the electric vehicle technology However, I have been troubled for a longtime by the fact that the electrical energy to keep the batteries charged has to come from the grid, and that means more power generation and a huge increase in the distribution infrastructure. Whether generated from coal, gas, oil, wind or sun, installed generation capacity is limited.

A friend sent me the following that says it very well. You should all take a look at this short article.

IF ELECTRIC CARS DO NOT USE GASOLINE, THEY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN PAYING A GASOLINE TAX ON EVERY GALLON THAT IS SOLD FOR AUTOMOBILES, WHICH WAS ENACTED SOME YEARS AGO TO HELP TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES. THEY WILL USE THE ROADS, BUT WILL NOT PAY FOR THEIR MAINTENANCE!

In case you were thinking of buying hybrid or an electric car...

Ever since the advent of electric cars, the REAL cost per mile of those things has never been discussed. All you ever heard was the mpg in terms of gasoline, with nary a mention of the cost of electricity to run it. This is the first article I've ever seen and it tells the story pretty much as I expected it to.

Electricity has to be one of the least efficient ways to power things, yet they're being shoved down our throats. Glad somebody finally put engineering and math to paper.

At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro Executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious.

If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you had to face certain realities. For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.

This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So, as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This later "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that it will be presented with an 'OOPS...!' and a shrug.

If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are eco-friendly, just read the following. Note: If you ARE a green person, read it anyway. It's enlightening.

Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and he writes, "For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine." Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.

It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 Mpg = $0.10 per mile.

The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the Volt costs $46,000 plus. So the Canadian Government wants loyal Canadians not to do the math, but simply pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run, and takes three times longer to drive across the country.

WAKE UP NORTH AMERICA!!!!!!!
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DaFace 09:56 PM 11-23-2021
:-)
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Bugeater 09:56 PM 11-23-2021
I should probably just go ahead and move this one to DC now....
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BleedingRed 09:57 PM 11-23-2021
Ooook
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BleedingRed 09:57 PM 11-23-2021
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
I should probably just go ahead and move this one to DC now....
Nah letís see how it plays out
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hometeam 09:57 PM 11-23-2021
This reads like old people facebook
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DaFace 10:00 PM 11-23-2021
Originally Posted by hometeam:
This reads like old people facebook
If you forward it to 50 of your friends Bill Gates will send you $100k.
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Bearcat 10:02 PM 11-23-2021
Originally Posted by hometeam:
This reads like old people facebook
And 10 years old... or at least a couple, since the Chevy Volt was discontinued in 2019 and its replacement now costs around $30k and not $46k.
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backinblack 10:03 PM 11-23-2021
yeah I'm not reading that
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backinblack 10:07 PM 11-23-2021
maybe I'll read it if you type it out like it was Foghorn Leghorn saying it

I say boy I say those confounded electric cars are about as useless as a fur coat in the Serengeti in July...
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ROYC75 10:11 PM 11-23-2021
The reality in all of the reading is electricity is not cheap and the USA does not have a power grid to support it.

It will take years of work to reach a power grid to support even 50% of the autos that are electric.

Up goes the electricity rates to pay for the new power grid!
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eDave 10:12 PM 11-23-2021
Originally Posted by backinblack:
yeah I'm not reading that
We can't build anymore residential or commercial things as they would require more electricity than we currently use as a society.

And what the hell are you driving that costs $25K new? Have some pride.
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Rain Man 10:12 PM 11-23-2021
I opened this thread just to read the comments.

Actually, that's why I open any thread, but you get what I mean.
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ThyKingdomCome15 10:14 PM 11-23-2021
Brilliant man. Eye opening.

Corn ethinal was the same way. Then the truth came out about how it took just as much to produce it as it saved, maybe even more. Electric cars are a money grab behind a veil of 'green energy.' The tactic isn't new. This is just the newest version of it.
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digger 10:16 PM 11-23-2021
good thing we use nuclear power to make all the electricity...



Wait what...
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