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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2021 Royals Season Repository Thread***
ChiefsCountry 12:01 PM 01-07-2021
For all things Royals for the new year.

Free Agent Signings:
Carlos Santana
Mike Minor
Michael Taylor
Ervin Santana

Top 10 Prospects:
1 Bobby Witt Jr., SS
2 Asa Lacy, LHP
3 Daniel Lynch, LHP
4 Jackson Kowar, RHP
5 Erick Pena, OF
6 Nick Loftin, SS
7 Kyle Isbel, OF
8 Khali Lee, OF
9 Jonathan Bowlan, RHP
10 Carlos Hernedez, RHP
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lcarus 02:22 AM 07-03-2021
Holy hell they won a game!
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Coach 07:14 AM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
Assume be resigns and takes a FO spot
No.

He needs to be gone. His shick has ran its course here. He just need to leave the organization and go somewhere else.
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Coach 07:18 AM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by tk13:
It's 100% true that they haven't done a good job of developing pitchers, but the Tigers literally had Singer on their short list to draft at #1 and he was at one time probably a top 5 prospect in the draft. You can't fault Dayton for drafting him all the way down at 18. There's no way he should be passing on talent like that.
I have no issue with Singer. I would have drafted him there as well.

The issue I am having is the Royals organization philosophy on pitchers from the lower level of the minor leagues to the MLB level.

Since we'll never know how Yordano would have turned out, so far up to this point, none of these pitchers under Dayton Moore that he has drafted, has panned out well as a legit top of the line starter. They have either:

a) flamed out

or

b) moved to the pen and had some success there.

That 2011 class was a huge bust.
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Why Not? 08:11 AM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by Coach:
I have no issue with Singer. I would have drafted him there as well.

The issue I am having is the Royals organization philosophy on pitchers from the lower level of the minor leagues to the MLB level.

Since we'll never know how Yordano would have turned out, so far up to this point, none of these pitchers under Dayton Moore that he has drafted, has panned out well as a legit top of the line starter. They have either:

a) flamed out

or

b) moved to the pen and had some success there.


That 2011 class was a huge bust.

Yeah it’s pretty much Detroit Lions drafting WRs pre Megatron bad. Since Grienke, we’ve basically had the potential of Ventura and that is it. Some people throw Duffy in there but that’s got to be based on longevity more than anything else. I like the guy as a person and respect his love for KC but he’s a .500 pitcher with basically a 4 ERA (career). So over the past decade plus, from a development of starting pitcher standpoint, you have:

1. What we all believe Yordano would’ve been

2. A serviceable 3/high end 4 in Duffy

3. Squadoosh

That’s pretty pathetic.
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Deberg_1990 08:34 AM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by Why Not?:
Yeah it’s pretty much Detroit Lions drafting WRs pre Megatron bad. Since Grienke, we’ve basically had the potential of Ventura and that is it. Some people throw Duffy in there but that’s got to be based on longevity more than anything else. I like the guy as a person and respect his love for KC but he’s a .500 pitcher with basically a 4 ERA (career). So over the past decade plus, from a development of starting pitcher standpoint, you have:

1. What we all believe Yordano would’ve been

2. A serviceable 3/high end 4 in Duffy

3. Squadoosh

That’s pretty pathetic.
The Royals organization hasn’t done a good job of developing pitchers since the 1980s.

Kevin Appier in the 90s and Greinke in the 2000s. Was about it.
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Sure-Oz 08:49 AM 07-03-2021
Are they working on a change up for Brady?
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Sure-Oz 10:34 AM 07-03-2021
@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.
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Chiefspants 07-03-2021, 10:37 AM
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lewdog 10:51 AM 07-03-2021
This isn't a drafting issue. It's a player development/coaching issue with our pitching problems over DECADES.
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Mama Hip Rockets 11:55 AM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.
YES! CASH!
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TLO 11:57 AM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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dlphg9 12:00 PM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.
How much y'all thinking we got for him? $69? $420? $69420?
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CasselGotPeedOn 12:00 PM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
@alec_lewis: The Royals traded Kelvin Gutierrez to the Orioles for cash considerations. Guti had been DFA’d.
If we got $5 we won the trade.
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dlphg9 12:04 PM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by lewdog:
This isn't a drafting issue. It's a player development/coaching issue with our pitching problems over DECADES.
Yep, I remember one of our top pitching prospects having issues with the organization over long toss.
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Prison Bitch 12:10 PM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn:
If we got $5 paid them we won the trade.
Fixed
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TLO 12:19 PM 07-03-2021
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
How much y'all thinking we got for him? $69? $420? $69420?
Bout tree fiddy
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