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Nzoner's Game Room>What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2
dlphg9 05:43 AM 02-17-2021
Spoiler alert!

Nothing is wrong with him! Unless you consider Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce as being a problem.

Mecole was 3rd on the team in targets (62), rec yards (560), and rec TDs (4). Those stats are right in line with any other teams 3rd most productive receiver and none of those other teams had 2 guys that were 1st team AP in front of that guy.

Green Bay Packers #1 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Robert Tonyan - 59 targets, 52 rec, 586 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 212
Rec - 148
Yards - 2064

Buffalo Bills #2 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Gabriel Davis - 62 targets, 35 rec, 599 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 273
Rec - 209
Yards - 2502

Tampa Bay Buccaneers #3 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Rob Gronkowski - 77 targets, 45 rec, 623 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 193
Rec - 135
Yards - 1846

Tennessee Titans #4 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jonnu Smith - 65 targets, 41 rec, 448 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 198
Rec - 135
Yards - 2059

New Orleans Saints #5 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jared Cook - 60 targets, 37 rec, 504 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 189
Rec - 144
Yards - 1482

Baltimore Ravens #7 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Willie Snead - 48 targets, 33 rec, 432 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 188
Rec - 116
Yards - 1470

Seattle Seahawks #8 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
David Moore - 47 targets, 35 rec, 417 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 261
Rec - 183
Yards - 2357

Indianapolis Colts #9 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Michael Pittman Jr. - 61 targets, 40 rec, 503 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 164
Rec - 99
Yards - 1391

Las Vegas Raiders #10 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Hunter Renfrow - 77 targets, 56 rec, 656 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 227
Rec - 155
Yards - 2092

Average for top 10 scoring offense's 3rd most productive receiving option :

Targets - 62
Receptions - 41
Yards - 530

Average for top 10 scoring offense's top 2 most productive receiving options combined :

Targets - 212
Receptions - 147
Yards - 1918


This is how Hardman stacks up against the other teams 3rd receiving option

Targets - 62 (62 avg)
Receptions - 41 (41 avg)
Yards - 560 (530 avg)

Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce combined

Targets - 280 (most in group)
Receptions - 192 (2nd most in group)
Yards - 2692 (most in group)

So what we can see from these stats above is that nothing is up with Mecole Hardman. His targets and reception matched the average of the 9 other top offenses 3rd receiving option and he was above average in yards, but the big huge difference is Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill just happen to be on the same team as him. Those two have 68 more combined targets, 45 more combined receptions, and 774 more combined yards than the others teams top 2 receiving threats.

TLDR;

Nothing is wrong, he's right in line with the other teams 3rd most productive pass catchers. Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are monsters and the best pass catching duo in a long ass time.

PS:

Seriously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are so good! There was only 11 QBs with more TD passes than those 2 had receiving TDs.

PSS:

Fucking Cam Newton started 15 games and had 45 less passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards in the same amount of games!

PSSS:

Fucking MVP Lamar had 65 more passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards and they tied for the same amount of passing TDs to receiving TDs.
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FloridaMan88 10:30 AM 08-16-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
It was a shitty pass. This was on Henne not Hardman.
Hardman's route wasn't great and he should have caught it.

Preseason means nothing, but when you are Mecole Hardman trying to prove you can be counted on as the Chiefs #2 WR this year, not catching a 3rd down pass (and bobbling it up for a near miss INT), is not the ideal start for him.
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rabblerouser 01:49 PM 08-16-2021
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Gadget player…nothing more, nothing less.
Been dippin' into the tardnip again, eh?
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PAChiefsGuy 01:52 PM 08-16-2021
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Hardman's route wasn't great and he should have caught it.

Preseason means nothing, but when you are Mecole Hardman trying to prove you can be counted on as the Chiefs #2 WR this year, not catching a 3rd down pass (and bobbling it up for a near miss INT), is not the ideal start for him.
Hardman is a speed guy and nothing more. I don't have high expectations for him at all. Reid/Mahomes make him look better than he is.

Hopefully I am wrong and he tears it up this season but I am not getting my hopes up.
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Hammock Parties 10:46 AM 08-17-2021
Not ready to catch the ball.

Mecole is jogging and is shocked when Pat throws him on the ball.

You’re running a crossing pattern on 3rd & 4, dude. https://t.co/s40vmTwst0

— Chase Snyder (@ChasingSnyder) August 17, 2021

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Sassy Squatch 10:55 AM 08-17-2021
Fucking hell, Hardman. Figured he'd have cleaned up these issues by now but apparently not. That's the type of shit that'll permanently lose trust with Mahomes.
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KChiefs1 10:58 AM 08-17-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Not ready to catch the ball.


Gadget player.
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Hammock Parties 10:58 AM 08-17-2021
Mecole going against teams with strong #2 corners is going to be an issue.
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ThaVirus 11:21 AM 08-17-2021
He was probably more concerned with the LB waiting in the middle than anything else.

Still an issue, for sure.
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Hammock Parties 12:50 PM 08-17-2021
Mecole's head is not in a good place. Chase didn't even tag him.

At least he was able to catch my account pic.twitter.com/QH1NpiV2wv

— Chase Snyder (@ChasingSnyder) August 17, 2021

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Sofa King 01:05 PM 08-17-2021
Yeah, I don't have a ton of hope for Hardman. Still has a lot of growing up to do.
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CasselGotPeedOn 01:21 PM 08-17-2021
Hardman had to have been searching his name. Neither of those tweets tagged him. Embarrassing.
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Sassy Squatch 01:24 PM 08-17-2021
Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn:
Hardman had to have been searching his name. Neither of those tweets tagged him. Embarrassing.
Eh. Someone could've retweeted it @ him. Still, that's some weak shit.
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Valiant 01:47 PM 08-17-2021
I wish he would step up and follow hill's lead.
He is in the perfect situation, maybe his heart isn't in it.
He has the attributes, but not working on your catching, lackadaisical route running.

Shit, I would just run him deep every route on sprints. Use hill for slants and quick routes.
Then see if a big hands wr comes out next year or another great te.
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Kiimo 01:50 PM 08-17-2021
After following him on social media for a while it became obvious that there wasn't a lot of seriousness going on.

He was just kind of...simple. He likes naps, was my biggest takeaway. I can see him driving the QBs and coaches crazy behind closed doors like wake the fuck up and pay attention this is actually important to some of us
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Dante84 02:01 PM 08-17-2021
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
After following him on social media for a while it became obvious that there wasn't a lot of seriousness going on.

He was just kind of...simple. He likes naps, was my biggest takeaway. I can see him driving the QBs and coaches crazy behind closed doors like wake the **** up and pay attention this is actually important to some of us
He likes naps.

He likes bowling.

He likes flirting with broke-ass white chicks from Olathe.

I'm literally anticipating some ridiculous story to come out in the next year or 3 about how he got caught banging someone's wife or was in a chick's DM's saying crazy shit, or gets pulled over with a Lee's Summit 6 who has her top off.

He can't be trusted to run a fucking route correctly, you think he's covering up all his dirt smoothly? No chance in hell.

I sure hope he balls out, but whatever.
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