I mean he cant be any worse than Hardman/Robinson can he?
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Can he fall forward? Then yes.
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You've got to be kidding. Oh sure, he might be what we need at WR behind Hill. That is until he relapses again (and he WILL relapse again) and then he's just a big fucking distraction.

Not no, but hell no.
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If it's what everyone is already expecting to happen it isn't that big of a distraction when it does happen IMO.

So I kinda remove that part from the equation and just realize he's Sammy Watkins with a drug problem instead of a broken body. Don't rely on him, don't expect him to contribute too much, do expect him to miss time and take him for the couple of weeks a year he's going to make a big difference hopefully?
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Know anybody in your life struggling with addiction? Do you have to interact with them every day?

Would you consider it a distraction in your life?
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Half the team barely knows the other half's name.

I don't remember how/when/where I realized this, but it's amazing how partitioned an NFL locker room is. The D-lineman hang with the D-Lineman. The DBs hang with the DBs and the OL pal around with the other OL. They're together in group meetings all the time.

And of course there are guys that 'float' because they're overall team leaders like Mahomes, Kelce, Mathieu, and Jones.

But for the most part a guy like Gordon, if he's still someone that needs tending to to stay focused, can probably be walled off a bit so that he's not exactly impacting more than a handful of dudes directly.

And if it turns out he's a negative influence on as much as the WR room, you walk away from him.

But folks seem to really like Josh Gordon and have been pulling hard for him. I don't think he's a cancer or anything - I think he's a dude that's tried awfully hard to lick this thing that's been beating him more often than not. I think he means well. I don't think he's beyond a dialogue/workout.
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I think you make completely reasonable points, but that we disagree on what a distraction is.
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How the fuck does this guy get so many chances.
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Cause he's super talented and hasn't hurt anyone but himself.
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The guy is 30 now and has not played consistent football in what? 7 or 8 years? It would probably be better to say he was once super talented.
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And still better than Hardman….
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After the bullshit with Hunt ending up in Cleveland...fuck it why not. The league doesn't give a fuck other than making a fake outrage at first. Goodell is a piece of shit.
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Work him out? Sure. On a short leash. See what he's got left in the tank. If he's a distraction, he's done the second he becomes a distraction.

I don't see much risk there.
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Here's the thing - he's not violent. He's not a bad teammate. He's not a rapist.

He's a drunk. He's been a drunk most of his life (evidently into his early teens). And then he found out weed is easier so he did that.

And I know that alcoholism destroys life and weed...whatever. But man, I have a real hard time not drawing a bright line between "this dude gets drunk...a lot" and "this dude might murder his girlfriend and off himself in the parking lot"

But there are some pretty obvious issues with Andy and his kids w/ substance abuse and honestly it may just not be the best idea.

I'd probably work him out and see if there's gas in the tank, but I understand if the organization doesn't want to go that route.
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Waste.Of.Time.
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