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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Another anti-vaxxer dies of COVID
Lex Luthor 06:32 PM 07-20-2021
Give this lady a Darwin award (posthumously, of course).

Originally Posted by :
Unvaccinated Trump supporter who spread coronavirus conspiracy theories dies of COVID-19



On Tuesday, the Cape Cod Times reported that Linda Zuern, a former member of the Bourne, Massachusetts Board of Selectmen and a Trump-supporting figure in the local Republican Party, had died of COVID-19.

Zuern died at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston of severe complications caused by COVID-19, according to the report. She was 70 years old and had not been vaccinated.

"She was a strong woman who believed in speaking the truth and defending our freedoms in America," Republican State Committeewoman Deborah Dugan told the Cape Cod Times. Dugan was at Zuern's bedside when she died. "I would describe her to people as a little woman but a mighty warrior."

For months, Zuern, a member of the pro-Trump group the United Cape Patriots, had promoted conspiracy theories about the pandemic on Facebook. She has shared articles accusing the World Health Organization of a coverup of the "Wuhan Virus" and claiming COVID-19 is cover for "globalists" to usher in "U.N. Agenda 2030" — a sustainable development initiative right-wing conspiracy theorists assert is a plot to create a one world government.

Zuern also expressed support for the QAnon conspiracy theory, posting their creed of "WWG1WGA" (Where We Go One, We Go All).

Zuern promoted the use of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment of COVID-19 during a Barnstable County Assembly of Delegates meeting in December and questioned whether officials "had looked into preventative measures that people could use besides a vaccine to help build up their immune system," the Cape Cod Times reported.

Peter Meier, chair of the Board of Selectmen, said Zuern cared deeply about others. "She definitely left her mark on the community," he added.

According to the report, Zuern and her mother contracted COVID-19 while returning home from a trip to South Dakota — a state where Republican-motivated policies have let the virus propagate with little control.
https://www.rawstory.com/unvaccinated-trump-supporter/
banyon 03:15 PM 08-12-2021
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12/10271...covid-19-delta

Mississippi's Hospital System Is On The Verge Of Failure As Delta Rages In The South

Coronavirus news is coming fast and furious, as the delta variant fuels another surge in cases across the U.S.

Arkansas set a record for hospitalizations, while officials in one Florida county are urging residents to "consider other options" before calling 911. Health officials in Mississippi say the state's hospital system could collapse in five to 10 days if the current trajectory continues.
Bah, they made that up. It's only 94 year old obese people! NPR is communist nazi anarchist propaganda. Why are you so afraid, you should hide in your closet! (Did I miss any?)
petegz28 03:25 PM 08-12-2021
Originally Posted by scho63:
Maybe if the government and media told the TRUE story rather than the bullshit they pedaled, half the country wouldnt be so skeptical.

It provides some protection but far from 100% effective.
I'll give you this much. I think and always have thought their messaging as been complete shit. It went from total shit under Trump to the worst shit you could have under Biden.

I think the efforts from Tweeter and Faceyspace blocking posts only fuels the fire. I would rather see the Faucis and CDC come out and explain why these things are false. Have a discussion. Allow people to ask questions and give the answer. Not "fuck you! I AM SCIENCE!". That does no one any good.

At the end of the day there will always be a group of people that just aren't going to accept anything and that's their right.
petegz28 03:27 PM 08-12-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I think they do a pretty good job explaining the story; no amount of factual evidence is going to convince the entrenched idiots (anti-vax and otherwise) anyway.
No, they don't. The messaging is and always has been complete and total shit. Instead of asking Facebook to block posts, send out the "experts" to explain why those posts are false. When you block them and don't necessarily respond to them you give a certain crowd more reason for distrust in their minds.
ChiefsCountry 03:29 PM 08-12-2021
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12/10271...covid-19-delta

Mississippi's Hospital System Is On The Verge Of Failure As Delta Rages In The South

Coronavirus news is coming fast and furious, as the delta variant fuels another surge in cases across the U.S.

Arkansas set a record for hospitalizations, while officials in one Florida county are urging residents to "consider other options" before calling 911. Health officials in Mississippi say the state's hospital system could collapse in five to 10 days if the current trajectory continues.
Fear porn but the media won't touch that Mississippi has the highest percentage of blacks in the nation.
Pawnmower 03:35 PM 08-12-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
You're going to have to explain this a bit further. What are you specifically trying to say here?

hes trying to say that he doesnt understand how vaccines work
Just Passin' By 03:42 PM 08-12-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I think they do a pretty good job explaining the story; no amount of factual evidence is going to convince the entrenched idiots (anti-vax and otherwise) anyway.

Do you realize what kind of fucking moron you come off as, when you claim that what the government and media has done, which has included lying, flip flopping, refusing to apply an evenhanded system of praise/condemnation, flat out getting things wrong, and shutting down of questioning/criticism, is "a pretty good job explaining the story"?
scho63 11:25 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by scho63:
Unlike things like the polio vaccine or measles or tetanus.
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
You're going to have to explain this a bit further. What are you specifically trying to say here?
Originally Posted by Pawnmower:
hes trying to say that he doesnt understand how vaccines work
First I know how vaccines work douchenozzle. You're too stupid to see the comparison.

The 3 vaccines I mentioned are nearly 100% effective. 99.99% is for all intent is 100% to prevent contracting it.

The COVID vaccine is maybe 10-20% so far. People taking the vaccine are still contracting COVID despite it and wearing masks.
scho63 11:26 AM 08-13-2021
Now they are talking about needing annual boosters.
scho63 11:30 AM 08-13-2021
If the COVID vaccine is so good, why are they making people who got vaxxed wear masks again?
Ninerfan11 11:33 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by scho63:
If the COVID vaccine is so good, why are they making people who got vaxxed wear masks again?
they think we're dumb.

Spoiler alert: most of us are.
Donger 11:36 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by scho63:
If the COVID vaccine is so good, why are they making people who got vaxxed wear masks again?
They are good, but there are breakthroughs because no vaccine is 100%. And they have learned that those breakthroughs have the same viral load (or close enough to it) of a unvaccinated person. They also think that the R0 is around 8, which is extremely contagious.

So, they changed the guidance.
BleedingRed 11:38 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
They are good, but there are breakthroughs because no vaccine is 100%. And they have learned that those breakthroughs have the same viral load (or close enough to it) of a unvaccinated person. They also think that the R0 is around 8, which is extremely contagious.

So, they changed the guidance.
Do you think the vaccines are closer to 100% or 30%
Donger 11:41 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Do you think the vaccines are closer to 100% or 30%
Latest data shows 88% against Delta.
RodeoPants2 11:58 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by scho63:
If the COVID vaccine is so good, why are they making people who got vaxxed wear masks again?
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?
SuperBowl4 12:02 PM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
I'm not happy at all. I wish people would stop politicizing the pandemic.
"give this lady a Darwin award (posthumously, of course)" - Lex Luthor - Humanitarian of the year?
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