Well yeah, he was injured and cut after 8 years with the Chiefs.

People said Tony Boselli would be a 10 year starter and the guy played for 6 and some change. The list is nearly endless of "10 year guys!" that didn't make it nearly that long.

Again, "Plug him in for the next 10 years!!" rarely happens.
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None of that is false, and yet, the Ravens just allowed the Chiefs to fill their biggest hole relatively cheap. Maybe they were the only team interested, we dont' really know.

But I'm still pretty shocked they traded him here. Ideally, you trade him to the NFC.
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Um, that kind of proves my point. Hard to form an opinion about trading for a guy you don't even know exists. To those people, Williams wasn't the best option, he was the ONLY option, so it stands to reason that they weren't talking about Brown.

You left off the qualifier, which is clearly very important. You're acting like the Brown trade is a consolation prize rather than a solid plan B. Like instead of getting a first place ribbon, they're getting a participation trophy. It's hardly that. I clearly said it was a rationalization because it clearly is. But it's not a rationalization completely ungrounded in reality. The reality is that trading for Brown and getting a 2nd round pick ended up being a pretty fucking great deal in hindsight.

It really doesn't matter if the opinion is based on reality or not. People thought the Ravens would refuse to trade with the Chiefs. Realistic or not, that opinion precludes them from forming an opinion on whether or not actually trading for Brown would be a good deal, compared to the Trent Williams option or by itself. They simply weren't considering it and again, reality has nothing to do with it. the reality is that they never thought it would happen so they failed to form an opinion at all.

Of course it's an unknown. Who said it wasn't? I mean if you want to talk about "unknowns" Trent Williams could get hurt tomorrow and miss 4-6 games next season, which he has actually done 4 times in a 10 year career. He hasn't played a full season since 2015, so if we're going to hang our hats on hypotheticals, we really have to consider all of them. I didn't feel that was a valid argument against bringing him in but it would intellectually dishonest to exclude it from discussion when comparing it to the Brown trade because it's absolutely part of the pro/con discussion.

I really think you're getting hung up on semantic or technicalities. Everybody here knows that Williams was the first choice. On paper, right now, it would have been better to sign Williams and keep our draft picks.

That being said, we don't know the future. The Brown trade could be a huge bust and Williams plays for another 4 years, making it by far the better of the two options.

The alternate could happen though too. Wiliams could get injured or something and Brown could go on to make 6 Pro Bowls in 8 years as a Chief, making the Brown trade clearly superior.

That's all anybody is doing - speculating on what COULD be, not what is - including you.
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FYI if anybody wants to see how Brown compares to some of the other options, here's that chart again.

Clearly Williams is in a class almost all of his own. Brown is a pretty sizable upgrade over Fisher or just about anybody else we could have gotten, though.

Not so sure I'd want to franchise someone in this position on this chart. pic.twitter.com/usw6TgcEJn

— Seth Walder (@SethWalder) March 12, 2021

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Orlando's run block win rate is going to skyrocket playing in a pass-first offense.
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Ok....and the Chiefs just gave the Ravens a 1st round draft pick. The Ravens, one of the best drafting teams in the league, now has two 1st round picks.

The Chiefs helped the Ravens get better too. For all we know, we just gave them the keys to a player that could help them beat their kryptonite.
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I think some of the confusion is from 810 honestly. Petro's show started like minutes after OBJ was traded for. The first thing he says was that he got a text from Eager saying he's a top tier pass blocker and a bad run blocker. Then Adam Teicher gets on and says Brown is 26.

I heard them repeat these errors all day and then had friends repeat those errors to me later.
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To be fair you should say, the Chiefs allowed the Ravens to move up 27 spots in the draft and add some day 3 picks which we all know are pretty unlikely to end up as impact players. I'm absolutely blown away that so many people are debating Silverdick, the Ravens getting an extra 1st, etc. Who cares?

The Chiefs were 14-2 last year and went to the Super Bowl. We are the class of the NFL for 3 years straight. And this team made MASSIVE strides forward in both quality and depth across the O-Line without losing any key players off our roster. And we still have two top 64 picks later this week. I think the rest of the AFC is shitting their pants at the prospects of going through Arrowhead again next year.
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The Ravens now need a T, same as KC before the draft and KC didn't wanna draft one early because of whatever reason.

It's back to the whole known/unknown.

Brown had clearly made it clear that he wasn't playing RT so they were kind of in a pickle.
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The Ravens need a right tackle and they can now get one that is marginally cheaper and much, much happier than Brown.

Their need and the Chiefs' aren't really even close to the same. There's a ton of guys in this draft that could start at RT for the Ravens right now but wouldn't be able to start for the Chiefs at LT.
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Not that they'll get at 31.
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Ok, cool. 8 years would be great too.

I don't necessarily mean LITERALLY ten years, although with luck it's possible. I mean a long term answer to the second most important spot on your offense.

If you can lock that up, you're in a really good place.
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The Ravens are signing Villan-whatever the fuck, who should fill in just fine for them at RT, since they already have a stud LT.

They don't have a hole there.
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Mmmmhrrmmm
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They could certainly get a RT at 31.
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