KU ***** Official 2018-2019 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ***** - Page 78

Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Well it did statistically and efficiency-wise compared to just about every team in the Self era.

Proof?

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The record was always a mirage and I think everyone who watched them saw that

Total nonsense. We were 5 in Sagarin and 7 in Pomeroybafter the ISU loss. That includes all games played.

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. They were playing relatively close home games against some awful basketball teams like Vermont and Louisiana when they weren't barely pulling out those home wins against Stanford and New Mexico.

Total nonsense. We’ve played the #1 SoS. (We played the top SoS last year too btw). Every team has some close wins over middling teams. Duke lost st home to unranked Cuse.

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The only real difference from the beginning of the season (all home or neutral games)

That’s true

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and now is that now they're finally playing true road games (1-5 on the season in them) which this team seems completely incapable of doing.

9-0 with Dok. FF last year worh Dok. I know you beat off to the NBA game and are incapable of seeing the college game for what it really is, but the numbers with-without Dok are extreme.
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Total nonsense. We were 5 in Sagarin and 7 in Pomeroybafter the ISU loss. That includes all games played.

They were 9 in KenPom after the ISU game, but at that time of course the preseason ratings were still in effect and had some impact on the #9 ranking (preseason ratings which had KU #1). I have no idea what they were in Sagarin (although if you're not referring solely to his predictor ratings, it's irrelevant). Is there some way to backdate his ratings so we could see that I'm not aware of?

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Total nonsense. We’ve played the #1 SoS. (We played the top SoS last year too btw). Every team has some close wins over middling teams. Duke lost st home to unranked Cuse.

Good Kansas teams don't struggle with teams like Vermont (70), Lousiana (190) and Stanford (126) in AFH. The weaknesses were always apparent.

Syracuse BTW was 39 in KenPom in that game (a game in which Tre Jones got hurt and Cam Reddish didn't play, so it wasn't even the real Duke).

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9-0 with Dok.

Mirage. They weren't going to continue winning close games like they were whether Udoka was on the team or not.

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FF last year worh Dok.

You can play with a big like him as long as you have elite shooting, which that team did. This team can't shoot at all.

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I know you beat off to the NBA game and are incapable of seeing the college game for what it really is,

What is it?

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but the numbers with-without Dok are extreme.

Correlation does not equal causation. I could just as easily argue that any drop off that has been incurred was due to the fact that the team is actually playing road games which they weren't doing before.

What is the point of this anyway? I never said KU would be better without Udoka. In fact, I said the opposite when he got hurt. Despite the fact that he has no NBA future, he's an above average college player which they are clearly lacking in. The hope was that playing the small lineup with Dedric at the 5 would open the offense up (because it was struggling even with Udoka), but it's apparent that they can't shoot anywhere near well enough for it to matter.
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Certainly not a good thing to lose him, but Self didn't seem to have a clue how to effectively play both Udoka and Dedric together (and honestly without shooters around them, it's hard to blame him). His absence will at least give Dedric a lot more space to do his thing now.

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He'll definitely get double teams, which will create open shots for others as he's a good passer in the post (unlike Udoka). They'll just have to make them.

This is what I wrote last month after the Udoka injury. There is no "gotcha" moment here. In theory, the offense could be better in a small lineup with Dedric at the 5 but the team just literally cannot make those open shots. Opponents are collapsing on Dedric and they have learned they can afford to do so without fear because nobody can shoot.
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Wonder if KU will consider jumping ship to a different shoe company.... KU is PISSED. Adidas should be bending over backwards trying to keep their number one school.
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Originally Posted by T-post Tom:
Wonder if KU will consider jumping ship to a different shoe company.... KU is PISSED. Adidas should be bending over backwards trying to keep their number one school.

My buddy proposed the theory that if they leave adidas, adidas will turn around and leak all the money they spent
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Originally Posted by Buehler445:
My buddy proposed the theory that if they leave adidas, adidas will turn around and leak all the money they spent

I think thats actually right. I dont really even know another good reason to stay with them other than being scared they would air our dirty laundry. They could easily get a rival amount from Nike, UA, Puma etc
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
We were struggling with Stanford and New Mexico St at home with Udoka. This team was never any good.

It honestly needed Grimes to be far better than this to actually be good (we're talking top 5 draft pick), but he's a barely passable NCAA player at the moment.

Right what I thought Grimes would be and what he are happen to be worlds apart, been extremely disappointing.
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
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This is what I wrote last month after the Udoka injury. There is no "gotcha" moment here. In theory, the offense could be better in a small lineup with Dedric at the 5 but the team just literally cannot make those open shots. Opponents are collapsing on Dedric and they have learned they can afford to do so without fear because nobody can shoot.

Dude. That�s totally a gotcha. You�re clearly saying we are better (offensively anyway) with only 1 on the court.
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Dude. That�s totally a gotcha. You�re clearly saying we are better (offensively anyway) with only 1 on the court.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Certainly not a good thing to lose him, but Self didn't seem to have a clue how to effectively play both Udoka and Dedric together (and honestly without shooters around them, it's hard to blame him). His absence will at least give Dedric a lot more space to do his thing now.

Except I said it was "certainly not a good thing to lose" Udoka. Why would I have said that if I thought the team would be better without him?

The only place I could be considered to be wrong was my theory was that his absence would open the game up for Dedric and create more open shots. It hasn't opened things up for him, though, because teams don't respect our shooting. We never improved in that area.
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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
Right what I thought Grimes would be and what he are happen to be worlds apart, been extremely disappointing.

Grimes has been dreadful and he was supposed to be a lottery pick. That's what ends up leading to seasons like this.
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Kansas!
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Hell of a half. Now fucking come out and crush these cunts after half. Don't be pussies.
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See, that was more what I had in mind as far as spacing/spreading the floor without both Udoka/Dedric playing in the post. They just completely annihilated the 3rd best defensive team in the NCAA. Helps when you make shots, though.
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Kansas is hitting pretty covered shots and TT is mising shots.
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They made 3s

Don’t be surprised if tech doesn’t come back and make it a game here in the 2nd half
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