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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Durham Arrest Watch - Tracking impending arrests in DOJ/FBI criminal investigation
Taco John 05:46 PM 12-15-2019
This interview seems like "required reading" at this point:


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Just Passin' By 02:25 PM 12-01-2020

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barr appoints Durham special counsel to keep investigating Russia probe origins under new administration. via @MikeBalsamo1

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) December 1, 2020

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AdolfOliverBush 02:33 PM 12-01-2020
Has Bull Durham been arrested yet?!
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GloryDayz 02:36 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Dang, I thought the dude had expired.

Yeah, this will get something done. :-)
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Discuss Thrower 02:41 PM 12-01-2020
Meaningless.
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GloryDayz 02:43 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Meaningless.
Just like his entire time in the job, he's been on vacation and doing nothing for the people.
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GloryDayz 02:44 PM 12-01-2020
I guess in his feeble mind he thinks that when Biden's A.G. comes in a directs the people to drop the case, that'll give somebody some ammunition.

That's Barr for ya.
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Shields68 04:29 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
I guess in his feeble mind he thinks that when Biden's A.G. comes in a directs the people to drop the case, that'll give somebody some ammunition.

That's Barr for ya.
It does force them to make any firings, orders to stop investigations etc to be made public and in writing. The Special Counsel appointment also orders Durham to issue a public report on his findings.

So for like 3 years we have heard doing anything to stop or not comply with a special counsel investigation is obstruction. It at least might end that talk.
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Just Passin' By 04:33 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by Shields68:
It does force them to make any firings, orders to stop investigations etc to be made public and in writing. The Special Counsel appointment also orders Durham to issue a public report on his findings.

So for like 3 years we have heard doing anything to stop or not comply with a special counsel investigation is obstruction. It at least might end that talk.
And NOW the talk of a report is finally appropriate.
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GloryDayz 07:31 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by Shields68:
It does force them to make any firings, orders to stop investigations etc to be made public and in writing. The Special Counsel appointment also orders Durham to issue a public report on his findings.

So for like 3 years we have heard doing anything to stop or not comply with a special counsel investigation is obstruction. It at least might end that talk.
See that's the point, Granny and Barr play by the rules, we're about to get another Holder or Lynch, liberal AGs aren't constrained by ethics. But I'm sure you knew that.
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Detoxing 11:14 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
This changes EVERYTHING!
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Shields68 11:32 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
See that's the point, Granny and Barr play by the rules, we're about to get another Holder or Lynch, liberal AGs aren't constrained by ethics. But I'm sure you knew that.
Sure. Given it does not sound like Durham is ready to file additional criminal charges, this is about all Barr can do, which is not much. But it is an attempt to stop the new AG from totally covering everything up. Even if Durham was prepared to file, it still could be white washed by the new AG by dismissing the actions and firing Durham. There is not much a person can do to stop a new AG from using their discretion in performing their job. But at least there will be a paper trail. If the new AG decides to look at bogus obstruction charges all this will be easily recovered.
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Pennywise 11:32 AM 12-02-2020
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
This changes EVERYTHING!
Sure does. I bet Barr appointed Durham to SC so Trump can't declassify or release anything on his way out.
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lostcause 04:09 PM 12-03-2020
Originally Posted by lostcause:
So, when nothing comes of this - who will you all blame?
What he said. A year ago.
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Just Passin' By 08:24 PM 12-03-2020
This is not a Durham issue, but it's about FISA, so I'll put it here:

The DOJ has filed its Kevin Clinesmith sentencing memo

They want incarceration.

DOJ: Clinesmith wasn't just altering e-mails - he was lying about Carter Page in DMs to the FBI agent.

Thread. pic.twitter.com/jdr9fSbKdC

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) December 4, 2020


Why the Clinesmith lie was material:

"It would raise the issue of whether [Carter Page] had those interactions with the intent to assist the US gov't."

It would go to the "loyalties" of Carter Page.

Clinesmith knew FISC needed to be informed.@AWeissmann_ disagrees ��*♂️ pic.twitter.com/Fca9EXLw9u

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) December 4, 2020


Clinesmith's lies "allowed the FBI to conduct surveillance" on @carterwpage thru a FISA application that "lacked probable cause"

He violated the duty of candor to the FISA court. pic.twitter.com/HmATZc76rj

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) December 4, 2020

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Just Passin' By 08:24 PM 12-03-2020

As to Clinesmith's excuses that he didn't think Carter Page was a source:

There is no evidence that anyone told Clinesmith that Page "was a subsource of a source." pic.twitter.com/9cAbKtfL3r

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) December 4, 2020


As to Clinesmith's limited cooperation:

He spoke with the FBI Inspection Div. about "all FISA applications he worked on."

There is no broader conspiracy - looks like Clinesmith acted alone on this.

Sentencing is on December 10.

Full doc:https://t.co/80WTP7uwQ2 pic.twitter.com/vfzr45JsNa

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) December 4, 2020

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