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Mephistopheles Janx 03:06 PM 11-06-2020
I just picked up a new monitor (34" Ultra Wide 1440p 144MHz 1500R Curve Samsung Panel -VA) to replace my 3 monitor setup (24" ASUS 1080p). Now I need a new video card to drive the monitor.

My current rig is:

Intel Core i-7 4770k Processor
32GB DDR3 Memory
Gigabyte Z97MX-Gaming 5 Motherboard
Radeon RX 570 Video Card

This card is going to struggle to push anything more than low to medium graphics on games with this new monitor. Where I'm torn is the cost of new video cards.

If I'm looking hard enough, I can stumble across an open box 5600 for $200 or $230 new. A 5700 for $320 (open box) or $350 new. But at that point... why would I just not drop another $100 for the 6700 at $449?

Ultimately... that makes the 5700 a non player and I'm left choosing between a 5600 at $230 or a 6700 at $450. I'd rather not spend an extra $220 but I feel like the 6700 would probably be the last video card my current build sees.

Then what about the 20x series by nVidia? By paying a touch more I get Ray Tracing which is cool but I'm not paying for a 2080, for what I would pay for a 2070 I may as well snag one of the new AMD cards. A 2060 is going for $320 new... I don't know that Ray Tracing is worth nearly $100.

Better yet... do any of you fellow nerds have an itch to update and want to sell me their 5k/20x series cards?
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vailpass 10:46 PM 01-22-2021
Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
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https://canvasportal.com/products/ri...s-wall-hanging
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Saulbadguy 12:23 PM 01-26-2021
Thinking about pulling the trigger on this:

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing...c49hg90dmnxza/

Any alternatives I should be looking at?

I currently have a GTX 1070. Wanting to upgrade to either the new 3060 TI or a 3070 at some point but obviously can't find them.
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Fish 01:33 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
Thinking about pulling the trigger on this:

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing...c49hg90dmnxza/

Any alternatives I should be looking at?

I currently have a GTX 1070. Wanting to upgrade to either the new 3060 TI or a 3070 at some point but obviously can't find them.
Not sure I would recommend that monitor for you. Especially if you plan on getting a 3070 in the future. You want a monitor with G-Sync capability to take advantage of that high refresh rate potential. With this monitor and your NVidia GPU, you'll be limited to 60Hz refresh rate. The difference between gaming at 60Hz and 144Hz is amazing. You should probably also consider bumping up to 1440p resolution. This one is limited to 1080p. Like I said, if you could see the difference side by side between 1080p 60Hz and 1440p 144Hz, you'd immediately justify spending the extra money.

The problem though, is that you won't find many/any monitors with G-Sync in anything over ~35". Only Freesync(AMD GPU) at that width.

You might also want to consider a monitor that has native 21:9. This one is native 32:9, which is going to display a lot of media as cut off, stretched, or black bars on the sides.
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Fish 01:38 PM 01-26-2021
This would be a better alternative(34" Curved, 1440p, 144Hz) for a little bit more: https://www.amazon.com/LG-34GP83A-B-...08FXGXJBH?th=1

Or if you really wanted something closer to that size(38" Curved, 1600p, 144Hz), look at this bad boy: https://www.amazon.com/LG-34GP83A-B-...08FXGXJBH?th=1

EDIT: Here's your 49"er with G-Sync. 240Hz refresh too. HDR. Wow. Little pricey though: https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-49-in...86&sr=8-2&th=1
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Saulbadguy 01:40 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by Fish:
Not sure I would recommend that monitor for you. Especially if you plan on getting a 3070 in the future. You want a monitor with G-Sync capability to take advantage of that high refresh rate potential. With this monitor and your NVidia GPU, you'll be limited to 60Hz refresh rate. The difference between gaming at 60Hz and 144Hz is amazing. You should probably also consider bumping up to 1440p resolution. This one is limited to 1080p. Like I said, if you could see the difference side by side between 1080p 60Hz and 1440p 144Hz, you'd immediately justify spending the extra money.

The problem though, is that you won't find many/any monitors with G-Sync in anything over ~35". Only Freesync(AMD GPU) at that width.

You might also want to consider a monitor that has native 21:9. This one is native 32:9, which is going to display a lot of media as cut off, stretched, or black bars on the sides.
Gotcha - thanks for the input. My main interest is a large monitor (49" would fit the bill). My current monitor is 120hz and I don't want to give that up either.

Given your input, should I be shopping AMD GPU's instead? I really don't have a preference, i've just always bought Nvidia.
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Fish 01:45 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
Gotcha - thanks for the input. My main interest is a large monitor (49" would fit the bill). My current monitor is 120hz and I don't want to give that up either.

Given your input, should I be shopping AMD GPU's instead? I really don't have a preference, i've just always bought Nvidia.
AMD GPU is definitely an option too, if you really want that monitor. Freesync would give you that 144Hz refresh rate. The new AMD's are pretty stout.

I'd still recommend 1440p over 1080p though.
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Pants 03:25 PM 01-26-2021
Fish, didn't Nvidia get scared and make their cards compatible with Freesync like a year ago?
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Fish 03:42 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by Pants:
Fish, didn't Nvidia get scared and make their cards compatible with Freesync like a year ago?
Kind of. They still have some “G-Sync Compatible” requirements for that to work though. So it strictly depends on the monitor itself. Most current Freesync-only monitors probably will not work. Usually if it's capable of it, the seller will list it as "G-Sync compatible" or it will be verified by users in the comments as such. Because it's so sought after.

Here's what NVidia says:

Originally Posted by :
Even though AMD Radeon GPUs and some FreeSync monitors support Adaptive Sync over HDMI, Nvidia says you’ll need to connect your GeForce GPU to your FreeSync monitor using a DisplayPort cable to activate variable refresh rates. (G-Sync monitors only work over DisplayPort as well.) Update: Adaptive Sync is only being enabled on GTX 10-series and RTX 20-series graphics cards as well, with no plans to activate it in older GPUs.

And only Adaptive Sync displays certified as “G-Sync Compatible” are guaranteed to work well with Nvidia graphics cards. If you try manually activating G-Sync on other FreeSync monitors, “It may work, it may work partly, or it may not work at all,” Nvidia says. Unlike G-Sync displays, which are all fully tested and certified by Nvidia, FreeSync monitors are built around an open standard with much less oversight.

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FlintHillsChiefs 03:45 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by Pants:
Fish, didn't Nvidia get scared and make their cards compatible with Freesync like a year ago?
Yes.

Believe it has to be Freesync v2.0 though
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Saulbadguy 08:29 AM 01-27-2021
And whoa, another cool feature that I didn't know about. The ability to hook up two devices at a time. My primary reason for replacing my 2 27" monitors was to use Powertoys for a better split screen functionality for work, and use one of my 27" with my laptop docking station.
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Fish 11:48 AM 01-27-2021
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
And whoa, another cool feature that I didn't know about. The ability to hook up two devices at a time. My primary reason for replacing my 2 27" monitors was to use Powertoys for a better split screen functionality for work, and use one of my 27" with my laptop docking station.
Helllll yeah. Most cards these days will push 4 monitors...
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Saulbadguy 12:44 PM 01-27-2021
Originally Posted by Fish:
Helllll yeah. Most cards these days will push 4 monitors...
I meant - the monitor supports 2 separate inputs simultaneously.
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vailpass 02:57 PM 01-27-2021
Originally Posted by Saulbadguy:
I meant - the monitor supports 2 separate inputs simultaneously.
That's what she said.
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Pants 03:01 PM 01-27-2021
Originally Posted by vailpass:
That's what she said.
:-)
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Rukdafaidas 03:55 PM 01-27-2021
My son is also in the process of building his first gaming computer. A gamer friend of his gave him a list of components that he recommended, which included an MSI 3060 ti trio.
We can't find it in stock anywhere.
We have found (gone now) the MSI 3060 ti Ventus (only 2 fans) and an EVGA 3060 ti. Do the brands make much difference? The component list had an MSI motherboard, is that why they recommended the MSI version of the 3060?
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