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gblowfish 01:13 PM 05-13-2021
Bout freakin' time...
https://uproxx.com/indie/todd-rundgr...-of-fame-2021/
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htismaqe 01:14 PM 05-13-2021
Along with Jay Z and LL Cool J.

What a joke. Sorry.
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DaneMcCloud 01:28 PM 05-13-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Along with Jay Z and LL Cool J.

What a joke. Sorry.
Foo Fighters before Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Ozzy is a joke as well.
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htismaqe 01:30 PM 05-13-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Foo Fighters before Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Ozzy is a joke as well.
Absolutely.

I find it kind of odd that Randy Rhoads got in before Ozzy. Not that Randy doesn't deserve, especially posthumously, but Ozzy gave him his big shot.
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DaneMcCloud 01:39 PM 05-13-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Absolutely.

I find it kind of odd that Randy Rhoads got in before Ozzy. Not that Randy doesn't deserve, especially posthumously, but Ozzy gave him his big shot.
It's just crazy that they put Metallica in before Deep Purple, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. That's not a knock on Metallica, either, because they too know that they wouldn't exist without those bands.

And yes, Rhoads before Ozzy is even more weird. No one had a bigger influence on 80's metal and hard rock than Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman.

Ozzy, unknowingly of course, pretty much created the genre.
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Bowser 01:46 PM 05-13-2021
The more time goes by, the more I understand Eddie Trunk's take on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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htismaqe 01:53 PM 05-13-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
The more time goes by, the more I understand Eddie Trunk's take on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Yep. 100% spot on.
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htismaqe 01:53 PM 05-13-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
It's just crazy that they put Metallica in before Deep Purple, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. That's not a knock on Metallica, either, because they too know that they wouldn't exist without those bands.

And yes, Rhoads before Ozzy is even more weird. No one had a bigger influence on 80's metal and hard rock than Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman.

Ozzy, unknowingly of course, pretty much created the genre.
Metallica is in but Motorhead isn't. That's weird.
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Frazod 02:12 PM 05-13-2021
I assume Boston's still not in. Fuck 'em. :-)
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Deberg_1990 03:04 PM 05-13-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Foo Fighters before Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Ozzy is a joke as well.
Jay Z in before these guys? What a joke.
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lcarus 03:11 PM 05-13-2021
I was looking at all the past inductees in the R&R Hall, and I'd never heard of half the people in there. For the ones I had heard of, I laughed my balls off at 85% of them that they were in before a lot of bands and artists that obviously deserve it. At this point I can't imagine anyone who would give a shiny shit about that "hall of fame".
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Deberg_1990 03:19 PM 05-13-2021
Originally Posted by lcarus:
I was looking at all the past inductees in the R&R Hall, and I'd never heard of half the people in there. For the ones I had heard of, I laughed my balls off at 85% of them that they were in before a lot of bands and artists that obviously deserve it. At this point I can't imagine anyone who would give a shiny shit about that "hall of fame".
They need to change the name to ‘pop music hall of fame’

Or create a separate Hall of Fame for Hip hop and R&B artists.

But probably too late for that.
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displacedinMN 08:00 PM 05-13-2021
Commentary from the Red Star-----

The Grammys are trying to do it. The Golden Globes are talking about doing it. And the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should do it.

It's time for the Rock Hall to clean up its act about how artists get chosen for induction.

This week, the hall announced six inductees — including Tina Turner, Jay-Z and Foo Fighters — who were elected by 1,200 voters (including me).

The hall also announced seven other inductees — including two who had been on the ballot for multiple years — chosen by anonymous executive committees.

How does the Rock Hall process work? No idea. The music world needs transparency.

Thanks to recently announced changes to the Grammys procedures (eliminating blue-ribbon nominating panels), we know how the oft-maligned awards will work next year. We have long known how the Baseball Hall of Fame voting operates, and the actual totals are reported. Some years no one garners enough votes for enshrinement.



The only thing that's clear about the Rock Hall is that an artist is eligible 25 years after releasing their first recording. That's it.

There is a nominating committee that chooses who goes on the ballot. Who are the nominators? Don't know. The select members are never disclosed, though over the years we've heard that Questlove and Tom Morello have been added.

The late producer Phil Spector used to be on board. I knew a couple of industry executives and a critic or two who participated for a bit. We hear that Jon Landau, Bruce Springsteen's longtime manager and producer, chairs the panel of about 30 members.

I've heard that each member gets to make a nomination. In 2013, Questlove spoke up for his hometown Philly favorites Daryl Hall & John Oates. They got on the ballot — and were elected the first time they faced voters.

I have voted for the Rock Hall for more than three decades. Some years, we voters — including previous inductees, critics and industry workers — ranked our top five choices (if we opted for that many). Now we just check up to five picks; this year there were 16 nominees. There has never been a write-in opportunity on the ballot.

Why did it take so long for such deserving names as Tina Turner and Neil Diamond to get on the ballot?

Diamond has never been hip, and the late Atlantic Records chief Ahmet Ertegun, co-founder of the Rock Hall who controlled it for years, apparently had an old business beef with him. Mr. Sweet Caroline waited 19 years to land on the ballot — and got elected on his first try.

How could the Hall overlook Ms. What's Love Got to Do with It, rock's ultimate comeback story? She had been eligible as a solo artist since 1999 (she was inducted with Ike & Tina Turner in '91) but this was her solo debut on the ballot.

Rolling Stone founder Jann Wenner has been a Rock Hall kingmaker for 35 years. Cross him for whatever reason, and apparently harm your chances of being nominated. Thankfully, he stepped down as hall chairman a couple of years ago.

Now longtime industry exec John Sykes, a co-founder of MTV who is now at iHeartMedia, leads the board. He's trying to make changes in the hall's nominating and voting procedures.

In an interview with Billboard.com, Sykes explained that the Rock Hall is "constantly refreshing" the ballot with "young voters," citing that as a "balance of power" with the nominating committee.

How's that? If artists — younger or older — aren't even on the ballot, there is no way to counter the omnipotent nominating panel.

This year, Sykes said, there were three special boards (with seven members each) who chose inductees for "early influence," "musical excellence" and the Ahmet Ertegun Award for a nonperformer.

Gil Scott-Heron and Kraftwerk were chosen this year as early influences. (I voted for both of them when they were on the ballot in previous years.)

LL Cool J, who was on the ballot this year for the sixth time and rejected by voters once again, was tapped for "musical excellence." Was this induction by executive fiat a consolation prize? "Not at all," Sykes said, noting that Hall of Famer Darryl McDaniel of Run-DMC advocated for the rapper/actor.

Well, one voice outweighs the votes of 1,200. Did the judge overrule the jury? Did one autocrat overturn the will of the people?

Of course, some people question why the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducts hip-hop artists, pop stars and country singers. Because, as Sykes wisely pointed out, rock 'n' roll is an attitude, it's about youth culture (Youth Culture Hall of Fame? Nope) and various forms of popular music (Popular Music Hall of Fame? Nah, too bland).

This all boils down to a question of integrity. Being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should be one of the pinnacles in the music world. In an industry once plagued by payola and still poisoned by cronyism, there needs to be transparency about the Rock Hall process to insure credibility.

But let's be honest: The Rock Hall is ultimately concerned about two things — attracting fans to its fabulous facility in Cleveland and creating a widely watched TV show for the annual induction ceremony. Its pooh-bahs know that while Tina Turner isn't going to perform at the Oct. 30 event, LL Cool J certainly will.

Twitter: @JonBream • 612-673-1719
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EPodolak 08:20 PM 05-13-2021
From time to time I consider visiting the HOF, been waiting for second reason to travel all that way. The Browns game in Sept is at Arrowhead or I would have gone then.

Anybody been? Half the acts in there don't mean much to me, still pretty sure it would be worth seeing.
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Deberg_1990 09:14 PM 05-13-2021
Originally Posted by EPodolak:
From time to time I consider visiting the HOF, been waiting for second reason to travel all that way. The Browns game in Sept is at Arrowhead or I would have gone then.

Anybody been? Half the acts in there don't mean much to me, still pretty sure it would be worth seeing.
Yes, I’ve been. It’s ok, but not spectacular or anything. Worth seeing once.
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