Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
The only first round pick Bo Nix ever played with in his three years at Auburn was Derek Brown, a defensive tackle.
In his entire 5-year collegiate career, Bo Nix has only played with two offensive players who were drafted in the first three rounds: Jackson Powers-Johnson, a center who was drafted 44th overall, and Anthony Schwartz, a WR who was drafted 97th overall.
Michael Penix, Jayden Daniels, and Joe Burrow don’t get shit on for transferring to better situations after three years and excelling. All three of them threw to WRs who were drafted in the top 10. Burrow and Daniels were both throwing to TWO first round WRs during their final season.
His name is Thro Pix, get it right dildo boy [Reply]
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
I mean, I've seen some seriously dumb takes in my life (especially from you), and, well, this is one of them.
First, almost all of the plays in these two videos were not plays where his first read was taken away. Some of them were obviously poor throws. But every college QB could fill a similar "lowlight" reel, if you consider their entire careers. Did you even watch the videos before you posted them?
If you’d keep up you’d realize that it’s been common knowledge and discussion that Bo Nix struggled when his first read was taken away. Half of the plays in the 2nd video were prime examples.
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Second, the Auburn ones were from his sophomore season. It's crazy to imagine a sophomore quarterback having the occasional bad play. Right?
Which proves that he was a struggling QB who was benched at Auburn even with players that were drafted.
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
Third, while playing against, as you pointed out, SEC competition at Auburn, he threw INTs on 1.51% of his throws. In Patrick Mahomes BEST season at Texas Tech, he threw INTs on 1.67% of his throws
And proceeded to show high potential in the bowl game against LSU with 370 yards, 4 TD’s, 1 INT with a team of only 2 drafted players from his offense against an LSU defense full of 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th rd draft picks. We never saw anything in the same galaxy like that from Nix.
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
To be clear, I don't think any realistic Broncos fan is saying that Bo Nix is destined to have the pro career of Patrick Mahomes. But it is accurate and relevant to point out that the ridiculous draft grades and immediate reviews by NFL draft "gurus" were quite similar, comparing the 10th pick of the 2017 draft and the 12th pick of the 2024 draft.
Which is why you guys are constantly comparing them to make yourselves feel better right?
And no they weren’t similar. Mahomes wasn’t benched in college. Mahomes had a very high ceiling and people thought he could be Brett Favre. Mahomes wasn’t the 6th QB drafted in his own draft class.
Nix is a high floor QB prospect while Mahomes was a high ceiling QB prospect. Comparing them is stupid. You want to compare Mahomes to any Broncos QB draft pick? The best one is Jay Cutler. [Reply]
And proceeded to show high potential in the bowl game against LSU with 370 yards, 4 TD’s, 1 INT with a team of only 2 drafted players from his offense against an LSU defense full of 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th rd draft picks. We never saw anything in the same galaxy like that from Nix.
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Mahomes lost by 29 points and only completed 50% of his passes, and THAT was his most impressive SEC game? :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
If you’d keep up you’d realize that it’s been common knowledge and discussion that Bo Nix struggled when his first read was taken away. Half of the plays in the 2nd video were prime examples...
...of his sophomore season in college. Since those games, he has thrown almost 1500 more passes and almost 100 more TD passes. Oh, and in that same three-year period, his teams won almost twice the number of games Mahomes' teams won in his three-year- college career.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
And proceeded to show high potential in the bowl game against LSU with 370 yards, 4 TD’s, 1 INT with a team of only 2 drafted players from his offense against an LSU defense full of 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th rd draft picks. We never saw anything in the same galaxy like that from Nix.
This is just silly. Bo Nix played 17 career games against ranked opponents, if I am counting correctly. Those teams would have been loaded with NFL talent. And he finished his career with ridiculous numbers.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Which is why you guys are constantly comparing them to make yourselves feel better right?
Again, no. Comparing draft gurus comments in similar windows after Mahomes and Nix were drafted is a lot different than comparing the players themselves. It simply illustrates the point that those grades and opinions and a few bucks will buy you a cup of coffee.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
And no they weren’t similar. Mahomes wasn’t benched in college. Mahomes had a very high ceiling and people thought he could be Brett Favre. Mahomes wasn’t the 6th QB drafted in his own draft class.
Do you know who was generally graded as a MUCH BETTER quarterback than Mahomes when they were drafted? That would be one Mitchell Trubisky. Nothing illustrates the point better than that. Mahomes was considered to be the 3rd or 4th best QB prospect in an historically weak QB class. Nix was generally ranked as the 5th or 6th best QB prospect in a draft that was historically top-heavy with QBs. It's apples and oranges.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Nix is a high floor QB prospect while Mahomes was a high ceiling QB prospect. Comparing them is stupid. You want to compare Mahomes to any Broncos QB draft pick? The best one is Jay Cutler.
This is all simply what you do in almost every argument. You take a result, and then reverse engineer opinions or cherry pick results to slap yourself on the back for being a genius.
Nix's ceiling is a more athletic version of Drew Brees. Do I think he is going to end up throwing for 80K yards and almost 600 TDs? No, I think that is unlikely. What I am saying is that none of the predictions right now make any more difference than the ones made seven years ago about Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs took a giant risk back then that most considered unwise.
The average Broncos fan is being cautiously optimistic about the QB situation. No one is boldly stating that we just drafted a guy who seven years from now will have won multiple Super Bowls and MVPs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco:
I mean..probably not over night but definitely after 5 years of playing college football. Don't take my word for it....go look at the results.
I have. That's the point. The numbers improved dramatically overnight. If you aren't willing to attribute a lot of that to a big step down in competition, you're just refusing to face reality. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
At Orange Huddle, he's known as Blows Dix.
Excuse me....he WAS. Until Denver drafted him. :-)
Come on, man. You spend enough time there to know that that is simply not true. There is one poster there that is considered the most extreme of the crazies that is spamming nearly every thread with that stupid crap. Said poster has been around, by my memory, for at least fifteen years. In those fifteen years, he's been almost stunningly wrong. This poster boldly declared a few weeks ago that he had inside information that the Broncos were going to select Laiatu Latu at number 12 - which would be the start of a "milk toast" 2024 draft. :-) Quoting him reflects more on you than on Broncos fans. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DomCasual:
...of his sophomore season in college. Since those games, he has thrown almost 1500 more passes and almost 100 more TD passes. Oh, and in that same three-year period, his teams won almost twice the number of games Mahomes' teams won in his three-year- college career.
This is just silly. Bo Nix played 17 career games against ranked opponents, if I am counting correctly. Those teams would have been loaded with NFL talent. And he finished his career with ridiculous numbers.
Again, no. Comparing draft gurus comments in similar windows after Mahomes and Nix were drafted is a lot different than comparing the players themselves. It simply illustrates the point that those grades and opinions and a few bucks will buy you a cup of coffee.
Do you know who was generally graded as a MUCH BETTER quarterback than Mahomes when they were drafted? That would be one Mitchell Trubisky. Nothing illustrates the point better than that. Mahomes was considered to be the 3rd or 4th best QB prospect in an historically weak QB class. Nix was generally ranked as the 5th or 6th best QB prospect in a draft that was historically top-heavy with QBs. It's apples and oranges.
This is all simply what you do in almost every argument. You take a result, and then reverse engineer opinions or cherry pick results to slap yourself on the back for being a genius.
Nix's ceiling is a more athletic version of Drew Brees. Do I think he is going to end up throwing for 80K yards and almost 600 TDs? No, I think that is unlikely. What I am saying is that none of the predictions right now make any more difference than the ones made seven years ago about Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs took a giant risk back then that most considered unwise.
The average Broncos fan is being cautiously optimistic about the QB situation. No one is boldly stating that we just drafted a guy who seven years from now will have won multiple Super Bowls and MVPs.
Nix fucking sucks....and this is coming from the guy that's right about EVERYTHING in this thread :-) [Reply]
Nix's ceiling is a more athletic version of Drew Brees. Do I think he is going to end up throwing for 80K yards and almost 600 TDs? No, I think that is unlikely. What I am saying is that none of the predictions right now make any more difference than the ones made seven years ago about Patrick Mahomes. The Chiefs took a giant risk back then that most considered unwise.
The average Broncos fan is being cautiously optimistic about the QB situation. No one is boldly stating that we just drafted a guy who seven years from now will have won multiple Super Bowls and MVPs.
