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Nzoner's Game Room>Chiefs Trade for OT Orlando Brown
Dante84 01:00 PM 04-23-2021
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The #Ravens are trading LT Orlando Brown to the #Chiefs, per me and @MikeGarafolo. A new blindside protector for Patrick Mahomes.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 23, 2021


Kansas City is trading its first-round pick Thursday night, along with three other picks in the 2021 and 2022 drafts, to the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for Pro Bowl OT Orlando Brown and one pick in the 2021 draft and another in 2022, per sources.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 23, 2021


Full details: #Chiefs get:
Orland Brown, 2021 2nd and a 2022 6th rounder
Ravens get: 2021 1st, 3rd, 4th and 20221 5th

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 23, 2021




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TEX 12:28 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Yea, but Mahomes is not playing as well by doing it. Mahomes and our OT's don't match..
Yep. Alex Smith he is not, nor should he have to be.
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ModSocks 12:31 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Yea, but Mahomes is not playing as well by doing it. Mahomes and our OT's don't match.

Mahomes plays better on the run, our OT's need play action and to protect a spot.
That doesn't make a goddamn lick of sense, son.
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JakeF 12:37 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
That doesn't make a goddamn lick of sense, son.
Seriously, let's hash this out. What part doesn't make sense?
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Pitt Gorilla 12:38 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
That doesn't make a goddamn lick of sense, son.
He's saying we need a shittier line that makes him run for his life.
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JakeF 12:43 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
He's saying we need a shittier line that makes him run for his life.
No, i'm not. Just the opposite.

I think Fisher and Schwartz were both more mobile than Brown/Niang. They allowed Mahomes to run around without getting killed. Mahomes loves to roll out and create gaps in a defense. Kelce and Hill would react to Mahomes scrambling to find the holes in a defense, Mahomes was good at finding them.

It's totally different while staying in the pocket. Defenses stay in their zones, stay with their WRs. Even the throwing angles are different from within the pocket.
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The Franchise 12:47 PM 11-08-2021
Schwartz wasn’t mobile. He was a technician like Thuney is at guard.
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ModSocks 01:10 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Seriously, let's hash this out. What part doesn't make sense?
Ive shown you what you need to do to prove your theory. There's no argument needed. Go count.

Go actually watch all of Mahomes' throws instead of remembering fondly the times he's rolled out and completed miracle passes.

My words won't change your mind. Maybe actually watching Mahomes play will.
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Pitt Gorilla 01:42 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by JakeF:
No, i'm not. Just the opposite.

I think Fisher and Schwartz were both more mobile than Brown/Niang. They allowed Mahomes to run around without getting killed. Mahomes loves to roll out and create gaps in a defense. Kelce and Hill would react to Mahomes scrambling to find the holes in a defense, Mahomes was good at finding them.

It's totally different while staying in the pocket. Defenses stay in their zones, stay with their WRs. Even the throwing angles are different from within the pocket.
Schwartz was mobile?!? When?
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suzzer99 02:09 PM 11-08-2021
Wait until the next speed rusher and see how he does.
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Pitt Gorilla 02:23 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
pay that man his money

I like Lil Zeus. I really do. I'm still not convinced, though, that he's an "elite" LT. If we could strike a more "top 10-15" type deal, I might consider it. Otherwise, enjoy the tag and let's do it all again in a year.
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dlphg9 03:10 PM 11-08-2021
90% of this board has no idea how to rate OL properly. This O-line has been damn good most of the season. Brown has been very good, but the fact that Mahomes will not consistently step up into a clean pocket makes his job so much more difficult.

This is the best line Mahomes has had. His IOL is probably top 3 in the league. He almost never has interior pressure. His tackles aren't getting beat and are doing there jobs but Mahomes just drifts back too far and that makes it impossible for the tackles to keep them off of Mahomes. We could have prime Willie Roaf and prime Mitchell Schwartz and the same thing would be happening.
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TEX 04:41 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I like Lil Zeus. I really do. I'm still not convinced, though, that he's an "elite" LT. If we could strike a more "top 10-15" type deal, I might consider it. Otherwise, enjoy the tag and let's do it all again in a year.
Wise plan of action.
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TEX 04:41 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Wait until the next speed rusher and see how he does.
Will only have to wait until Sunday...
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htismaqe 04:43 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I like Lil Zeus. I really do. I'm still not convinced, though, that he's an "elite" LT. If we could strike a more "top 10-15" type deal, I might consider it. Otherwise, enjoy the tag and let's do it all again in a year.
I'm pretty much right with you on this.

I'm not giving him a huge contract. The tag is perfect for a guy like this. Tag him and see where it goes.
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TRR 04:52 PM 11-08-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I like Lil Zeus. I really do. I'm still not convinced, though, that he's an "elite" LT. If we could strike a more "top 10-15" type deal, I might consider it. Otherwise, enjoy the tag and let's do it all again in a year.
Agree with you. Would love to see him drop some weight, and work on his flexibility, as I think that would aid in his ability to succeed against speed guys. He could play at the 320-325 range, and still not lose his power/length.
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