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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Cheney Declares War on Trump Moments After Her Ouster
Donger 11:47 AM 05-12-2021
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cheney-d...-office-again/

After House Republicans voted to remove Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) as chair of the conference, the lawmaker pledged to ensure Donald Trump would never get “near the Oval Office” again.

“Going forward, the nation needs a strong Republican Party,” she said at a defiant presser after the vote. “The nation needs a party that is based upon fundamental principles of conservatism and I am committed and dedicated to ensuring that that’s how this party goes forward and I plan to lead the fight to do that.”

A reporter then noted that Trump may end up back in the White House in 2024, asking Cheney if she was prepared to prevent that.

“I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the Oval Office. We have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language,” Cheney said. “We have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the Constitution. And I think it is very important that we make sure whomever we elect is somebody who will be faithful to the Constitution.”

The representative condemned Trump and stressed her dedication to conservative values in remarks to her Republican colleagues moments before they voted to oust her.

“We cannot let the former president drag us backward and make us complicit in his efforts to unravel our democracy,” she said. “Down that path lies our destruction, and potentially the destruction of our country.”

“I will be leading the fight to restore our party and our nation to conservative principles, to defeating socialism, to defending our republic, to making the GOP worthy again of being the party of Lincoln.”
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RodeoPants2 01:53 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Yes, but royals inter-breeding is nothing new. But that's not what I'm referring to.
What are you referring to?
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Over Yonder 01:59 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
I get that you didn't call him a conservative. I just find it amusing that you, a self-professed "conservative", used Rand Paul as your go to. I didn't look at it as a commentary on you. I see it as a commentary on the state of true "conservatism" today. True "conservatism" is dead, or close enough that the difference is just a matter of pulling the plug and signing the certificate.
I have mentioned this before. I honestly don't know what I am as far as terminology is used these days. I respect your opinion greatly, what would you label me? I think of myself as a conservative, but maybe I'm not. I look at Rand when it comes to fiscal policy. But he most certainly isn't a flat out match for me across the board.
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Donger 01:59 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
What are you referring to?
I'm still considered a "subject" of the queen, even though I've been an American citizen for 30 years, even though I requested that be removed.
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Bob Dole 02:04 PM 05-12-2021
I thought she already did this a couple of years ago.
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IowaHawkeyeChief 02:05 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
I wonder how many of the GOP members who voted to boot her have complained about cancel culture.
Don't be obtuse... This is about the mid-terms. She has no chance of ever being elected in Wyoming ever again. Give the position to someone who can use the position capital next year... It's not that hard...
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Bob Dole 02:05 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
No one can explain why they are booting Cheney other than saying mean things about Trump. Pathetic.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...iberals-485390
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Imon Yourside 02:06 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
I'm still considered a "subject" of the queen, even though I've been an American citizen for 30 years, even though I requested that be removed.
The Brits could have taken over America if they had at least 20 full seasons of Fawlty Towers. You should relay that back to HQ, a strategic blunder for sure.
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IowaHawkeyeChief 02:07 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Cheney had a A- grade on immigration.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/m...adescoresheet/



Too bad she got bounced. But this is the party of BigBiz and cheap labor, and unlimited immigration, so she had to go.

Cheney's the queen of big biz and foreign wars...
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Imon Yourside 02:08 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
Cheney's the queen of big biz and foreign wars...
You don't like Bush/Cheneys plan for a 100 year war? In Cheneys words we could use a new pearl harbor, prior to 9/11......
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GloryDayz 02:08 PM 05-12-2021
This is awesome.... :-)

:-)
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IowaHawkeyeChief 02:10 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
Ousting conservatives to own the never Trumpers. You are all fools for worshipping this orange idiot and allowing him to drag this party to hell.

Whoever Wyoming elects will be at least that conservative... Your post proves nothing more than she actually agreed with Trump the large majority of the time and her distain was solely personal...
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MahomesMagic 02:11 PM 05-12-2021
Liz Cheney’s Stand Had Nothing to Do With Principle. Ask Her Sister.
Don’t expect much sincerity from the same Wyoming representative who once threw her sibling overboard for political gain


Cheney knows lies both big and small. She, with Wallace, was a leading booster of her father’s war. She has shown no remorse or reflection over the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Quite the contrary, it was Trump’s attack on the decision to go to war in Iraq, and later his insistence on exiting Afghanistan, that triggered her most deeply and drove her to work publicly with Democrats to keep the occupation going.

Cheney’s celebration of America’s commitment to democracy abroad is as brazen as Trump’s own fuckery.
Cheney’s celebration of America’s commitment to democracy abroad, as exampled by her floor speech on Tuesday, is as brazen as Trump’s own fuckery. The Cheney wing of the Republican Party has betrayed nothing but contempt for democracy around the globe in the period since World War II, reveling in the overthrow of democratically elected leaders, only approving of elections if they are won by the candidate preferred in Washington — or if the promise of them can be used to justify an invasion. Liz Cheney’s father, Dick Cheney, served as deputy chief of staff and chief of staff to President Gerald Ford as his administration welcomed the rule of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Spare us the paeons to democracy.

Liz Cheney’s affection for U.S. interventionism may mark the origin of her hostility to the Trump wing of the party, but the question of whether her stand today is truly one of principle could best be answered by her sister, Mary Cheney.

For years, the Cheney family stood apart from the Republican Party’s culture war against the GOP, even as the Bush-Cheney administration cynically deployed opposition to marriage equality as a tool to drive out the evangelical vote for the party. “Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it’s an issue that our family is very familiar with,” Dick Cheney said that year. “With respect to the question of relationships, my general view is that freedom means freedom for everybody.”

For the Cheneys, power comes before everything.
Running for Senate in 2013, Liz Cheney threw her sister overboard. “I love Mary very much, I love her family very much. This is just an issue on which we disagree,” she told viewers of Fox News.

“Liz — this isn’t just an issue on which we disagree, you’re just wrong — and on the wrong side of history,” Mary, a Republican operative herself, shot back on Facebook. “Liz has been a guest in our home, has spent time and shared holidays with our children,” Mary’s wife Heather Poe wrote. “To have her now say she doesn’t support our right to marry is offensive to say the least.”

Dick Cheney sided with Liz, because for the Cheneys, power comes before everything.

https://theintercept.com/2021/05/12/...n-house-trump/
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Imon Yourside 02:17 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Liz Cheney’s Stand Had Nothing to Do With Principle. Ask Her Sister.
Don’t expect much sincerity from the same Wyoming representative who once threw her sibling overboard for political gain


Cheney knows lies both big and small. She, with Wallace, was a leading booster of her father’s war. She has shown no remorse or reflection over the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Quite the contrary, it was Trump’s attack on the decision to go to war in Iraq, and later his insistence on exiting Afghanistan, that triggered her most deeply and drove her to work publicly with Democrats to keep the occupation going.

Cheney’s celebration of America’s commitment to democracy abroad is as brazen as Trump’s own ****ery.
Cheney’s celebration of America’s commitment to democracy abroad, as exampled by her floor speech on Tuesday, is as brazen as Trump’s own ****ery. The Cheney wing of the Republican Party has betrayed nothing but contempt for democracy around the globe in the period since World War II, reveling in the overthrow of democratically elected leaders, only approving of elections if they are won by the candidate preferred in Washington — or if the promise of them can be used to justify an invasion. Liz Cheney’s father, Dick Cheney, served as deputy chief of staff and chief of staff to President Gerald Ford as his administration welcomed the rule of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Spare us the paeons to democracy.

Liz Cheney’s affection for U.S. interventionism may mark the origin of her hostility to the Trump wing of the party, but the question of whether her stand today is truly one of principle could best be answered by her sister, Mary Cheney.

For years, the Cheney family stood apart from the Republican Party’s culture war against the GOP, even as the Bush-Cheney administration cynically deployed opposition to marriage equality as a tool to drive out the evangelical vote for the party. “Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it’s an issue that our family is very familiar with,” Dick Cheney said that year. “With respect to the question of relationships, my general view is that freedom means freedom for everybody.”

For the Cheneys, power comes before everything.
Running for Senate in 2013, Liz Cheney threw her sister overboard. “I love Mary very much, I love her family very much. This is just an issue on which we disagree,” she told viewers of Fox News.

“Liz — this isn’t just an issue on which we disagree, you’re just wrong — and on the wrong side of history,” Mary, a Republican operative herself, shot back on Facebook. “Liz has been a guest in our home, has spent time and shared holidays with our children,” Mary’s wife Heather Poe wrote. “To have her now say she doesn’t support our right to marry is offensive to say the least.”

Dick Cheney sided with Liz, because for the Cheneys, power comes before everything.

https://theintercept.com/2021/05/12/...n-house-trump/
LIZ could have written the new PNAC documents...
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Pogue 02:17 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
Cheney's the queen of big biz and foreign wars...
Democrats are fully aligned with the Cheney’s war machine now. Pelosi and the rest of the Democrat leadership praised Cheney to the hilt lately. Cheney’s lecture on democracy last night was laughable, Liz didn’t mention her fathers illegal wars and killing hundreds of thousands.
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Mr. Kotter 02:18 PM 05-12-2021
Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco:
It's long past time for men of good will to take Reagan's 11th Commandment to heart.
The GOP eats their young...if you've ever criticized a RINO, you are a hypocrite.

With the vitriol, they have faced, and if we are lucky, the Lincoln Project may just be the beginning.
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