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googlegoogle 07:35 PM 03-11-2011
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...reactors_N.htm
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Rausch 12:37 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Hydrae:
Are you talking about the 50 days for Stronium 89 or the 26+ years for Stronium 90?
Or the 3 days, on average, it takes for that to blow to the west coast.

Not that I'm a big fan of the west cost. I'm not.
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Dave Lane 12:37 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Donger:
Once the core melts, there isn't anything you can do except keep pumping water on it. Hopefully, the corium is contained inside the PV, as well as the radioactive water.

In the case of Fukushima, it seems clear that there were melts in at least three of the reactors, and that there was/were leaks in the PV(s). I'm not arguing that there hasn't been unintentional and intentional releases of radiation from this event.
But getting the core cool with water is the key to stopping the problem.
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Rausch 12:40 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
But getting the core cool with water is the key to stopping the problem.
And as you pour more water on that nasty $#it immediately sublimates into the air.

Fuck it.

Nevermind.

Back to your nachos...
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Donger 12:42 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Or the 3 days, on average, it takes for that to blow to the west coast.

Not that I'm a big fan of the west cost. I'm not.
We haven't detected Strontium 90 from Fukushima at any appreciable levels here.
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Donger 12:43 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
But getting the core cool with water is the key to stopping the problem.
Since the cores were SCRAMed, the issue was decay heat. Still is. But, yes, what you state is accurate.
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Rausch 12:47 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Donger:
We haven't detected Strontium 90 from Fukushima at any appreciable levels here.
With a nice tie and some dental work you'll look good at the presser...
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4th and Long 12:48 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Hydrae:
Are you talking about the 50 days for Stronium 89 or the 26+ years for Stronium 90?
Stronium 90 has a half life of 28.8 years.
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Donger 12:48 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Rausch:
With a nice tie and some dental work you'll look good at the presser...
You are suggesting that we have detected Strontium 90 from Fukushima here at appreciable levels?
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4th and Long 12:48 PM 06-13-2011
Strontium 90 was the name of a short-lived 1977 British band with members Mike Howlett (bass, vocals), Sting (bass, vocals), Stewart Copeland (drums), and Andy Summers (guitar). The band is most notable for introducing Summers to Sting and Copeland, as this trio would go on to massive success as The Police.
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4th and Long 12:49 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Donger:
You are suggesting that we have detected Strontium 90 from Fukushima here at appreciable levels?
That or he's taking a crack at your heritage.
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Rausch 12:52 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by 4th and Long:
Stronium 90 has a half life of 28.8 years.
Japan to Cali in 3 days.

Right now the cancer rates in Cali are 1/8th that of the midwest.

Despite my consistent $3it talking I'd take no joy in seeing those rates even out...
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Rausch 12:55 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by 4th and Long:
That or he's taking a crack at your heritage.
No.
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Donger 01:00 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Japan to Cali in 3 days.

Right now the cancer rates in Cali are 1/8th that of the midwest.

Despite my consistent $3it talking I'd take no joy in seeing those rates even out...
You don't need to worry about it, Rausch. No one beyond a few miles from the the plant does.
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Rausch 01:09 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Donger:
You don't need to worry about it, Rausch. No one beyond a few miles from the the plant does.
Last argument before bed: the SPREAD of the radiation won't go beyond a few miles but the radiation will last for decades.

3 plants were compromised (to some degree.)

Japan has outright lied the entire time about the condition of its reactors.
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Donger 01:15 PM 06-13-2011
Originally Posted by Rausch:
Last argument before bed: the SPREAD of the radiation won't go beyond a few miles but the radiation will last for decades.
Yes, that's correct. There are in process of cleaning up the radioactive water, however.

Originally Posted by Rausch:
3 plants were compromised (to some degree.)
Reactors, not plants.

Originally Posted by Rausch:
Japan has outright lied the entire time about the condition of its reactors.
They were cautious about using the word "meltdown" for good reason: 1) It might have created panic. 2) They weren't positive that a melt(s) had taken place. 3) "Meltdown" means different things to different people. The core can technically melt with no breach of the PV, a melt with a slight breach of the PV (what happened at Fukushima), or a melt with a massive breach of the PV (Chernoybl).
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