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Nzoner's Game Room>Mayock out as Raiders GM
Stewie 05:20 PM 01-17-2022
Per Schefter. Not a surprise.
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wazu 10:06 AM 01-18-2022
Originally Posted by R8RFAN:
Carr has never had a real defense to help him and now has a line that can't protect him. The Raiders had a decent pass rush but I still think they finished 26th in the NFL. I think this team has many problems to fix but I seriously don't think Carr is the problem here. Is he Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes? No but he is still a good QB. I compare him alot to stafford, Similar size and arm strength but the Rams have a D and WR's . Give Carr what Stafford has and if he fails then yes he is the problem.
So basically surround him with the most stacked team imaginable on both sides of the ball and give him a brilliant offensive-minded coach and he'll be fine.
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R8RFAN 10:21 AM 01-18-2022
Originally Posted by wazu:
So basically surround him with the most stacked team imaginable on both sides of the ball and give him a brilliant offensive-minded coach and he'll be fine.
Didn't say that but middle of the pack would be nice at least .

Study the chart below and you tell me.


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R8RFAN 10:26 AM 01-18-2022
26th Rated D
28TH Rated rushing
Carr is not the problem


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Chiefnj2 10:30 AM 01-18-2022
Originally Posted by R8RFAN:
Carr has never had a real defense to help him and now has a line that can't protect him. The Raiders had a decent pass rush but I still think they finished 26th in the NFL. I think this team has many problems to fix but I seriously don't think Carr is the problem here. Is he Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes? No but he is still a good QB. I compare him alot to stafford, Similar size and arm strength but the Rams have a D and WR's . Give Carr what Stafford has and if he fails then yes he is the problem.
As a Chiefs fan, I'd be thrilled if the Raiders re-upped Carr. The Raiders have bigger problems than Carr, but I don't think he's going to carry the team through the playoffs.
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wazu 10:31 AM 01-18-2022
Originally Posted by R8RFAN:
Didn't say that but middle of the pack would be nice at least .

Study the chart below and you tell me.

This is a pretty fascinating chart. If what it draws out is true then if we can get past the Bills we're in pretty good shape.

Regarding Carr, I was more kidding. I think he's "fine". If I were the Raiders, I wouldn't want to pass up on a chance at a franchise QB because of him, but yeah if they give him a good supporting cast he can get it done.
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Ocotillo 11:52 PM 01-18-2022
Originally Posted by R8RFAN:
I see Jim Harbaugh as our next coach and I am not real happy about it to be honest. I think he is too much of a hardass and the Prima Donna NFL players of today will lay down on him.
Harbaugh only ranks fifth all-time in coaches' winning percentage and would be the active leader if he's hired.

You say Harbaugh is a hard ass but he also played 14 years in the NFL and that carries a lot of weight with players, too.
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BryanBusby 12:00 AM 01-19-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I disagree on Mayock's performance. Everyone can yuck up his 1st round picks but he's added talent to that team, especially defensively.

Abram is a solid to good SS and Moehrig looks like the making of a stud FS.
Mullen and Hobbs are good CBs, so when they are all on the field together that secondary will be damned tough.

Deablo is coming on as a space linebacker. Crosby is a stud DE.

Leatherwood may not be the solution at RT but I think he'll end up turning into a solid RG and they needed both so it wasn't like it wasn't worth taking a shot on the kid knowing if he failed at one they could move him. He's gotta learn better pass blocking technique, all there is to it, but he's got the requisite skill set and he did improve in small bits over the season.

Let's not act like Ruggs wasn't a good pick, because he was looking like the making of a damned good WR before he fucked everything up. You can't predict a player doing something so stupid. That's not a scouting issue. Edwards is coming on as a WR there too and Renfrow is a hell of a slot.

Foster Moreau is a solid #2 TE as a late 4th round guy.

Josh Jacobs is a really solid RB and alot better than CEH.

Sure, if he doesnt' miss on Arnette and Ferrell and instead takes Josh Allen and whoever it looks even better but no GM is perfect.

You look at him taking Arnette, look at the next 2 CBs taken. Igbinoghene has sucked just as much and Gladney is indicted on felony assault charges and cut. The same Gladney everyone here wanted KC to draft.

I also think he made some good signings defensively with guys like Ngakoue, Jefferson, and Hankins. Littleton has been okay. Perryman played way better than expected.

My thoughts were if he could address the Oline in the offseason, he'd have turned that franchise around. I guess he doesn't get the chance. I think this is more the mark of a feeble and impatient owner more than a GM that didn't know what he was doing.

It makes me more entertained that they gave up on Mayock than had they not.
He did address the OL and that's why it got shittier. Remember when he traded a pro bowl Center for a sack of dicks?

Abram sucks and Mullen is just ok.

Mayock was a sub 50% hit rate on FA. Trading for 2 big ol busts in Steelers WR's, Trent Brown and Joyner were some awful signings.

Drafting a kid in the 3rd round and trading him months later was fucking hilarious.

Mayock was pretty damn bad at his job.

Ruggs is, was and forever will be stupid over Lamb and Jefferson.

Let's not even get started at Ferrell #3 overall all.
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RealSNR 12:12 AM 01-19-2022
Originally Posted by R8RFAN:
26th Rated D
28TH Rated rushing
Carr is not the problem

Are you in favor of keeping Biscotti as head coach or whatever his name is?
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dlphg9 12:19 AM 01-19-2022
I mean he's not good, but he's been the best GM the Faid have had in awhile. They've had 7 of more wins in his 3 seasons, which hasn't been done by the Faid since 2000-2002 and they had double digit wins for only the 2nd time since 2003. It's laughably pathetic, but he's done more then alot of other shit stains there.
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dlphg9 12:22 AM 01-19-2022
Originally Posted by R8RFAN:
Carr has never had a real defense to help him and now has a line that can't protect him. The Raiders had a decent pass rush but I still think they finished 26th in the NFL. I think this team has many problems to fix but I seriously don't think Carr is the problem here. Is he Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes? No but he is still a good QB. I compare him alot to stafford, Similar size and arm strength but the Rams have a D and WR's . Give Carr what Stafford has and if he fails then yes he is the problem.
This sounds alot like what the Alexsexuals said about Alex Smiff.
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R8RFAN 10:35 AM 01-19-2022
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Are you in favor of keeping Biscotti as head coach or whatever his name is?
I personally like him, he is laid back and gets the most out of the players and they like him. I want the O and D COORDS gone though. 26th rated D does not cut it and OLE is way too conservative.
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Chiefshrink 01:15 PM 01-19-2022
Originally Posted by Kman34:
The Owner can’t pick a hairstyle much less a GM.
Yes, ya gotta wonder about that "bowl cut". I think Gruden talked Davis into hiring Mayock.
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tredadda 01:48 PM 01-19-2022
Originally Posted by PackerinMo:
Clellin Ferrell over Josh Allen was their first mistake.
Josh Allen the defender or Josh Allen the QB?
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R8RFAN 02:16 PM 01-19-2022
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
Yes, ya gotta wonder about that "bowl cut". I think Gruden talked Davis into hiring Mayock.
DUH YA THINK?
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htismaqe 02:20 PM 01-19-2022
Originally Posted by tredadda:
Josh Allen the defender or Josh Allen the QB?
The edge. He went like a half dozen picks later.

The QB went the year before.
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