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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Screw the Targaryens....what do we need to do to get Brynden Tully on the throne? Blackfish FTMFW.
About the only great House I don't actively dislike (or hasn't been wiped out) at this point is the Tyrells. Let's take a step back for a minute and look at our protagonists - The Starks. Look at history and ask yourself what we have here; you know they're pretty much just warring tribesman, right? Like, Icelandic Vikings. They have no business ruling a Continent. The Arryns are largely career second fiddles. Baratheon doesn't exist anymore as there are no male heirs (and maybe Shireen will also die in the books). Bolton and Frey...yeah. The Greyjoys are essentially mad Scotsmen, are they not? Dorne is literally a different country.
Isn't Willas seen as largely good people? Why shouldn't I be rooting for The Tyrell's to win this thing somehow and for Willas to take over? Because I can't bring myself to root for the emo zombie or the entitled tween with the genocidal family background and a refusal to acknowledge the scoreboard.
Isn't the show just exactly like real life? Hillary=entitled tween. Trump=dumb motherfucker that nobody likes but has all the money?
That's what is compelling about this show. No particularly clean protagonist. Same with BB Mad Men etc [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet:
How did Hodor get so stupid?
Any bets?
My gal.. who is brilliant and in her 2nd year of med-school... says that it most likely occurred due to a stroke.. in the Broca's area of the brain. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks:
My gal.. who is brilliant and in her 2nd year of med-school... says that it most likely occurred due to a stroke.. in the Broca's area of the brain.
Well, my guess is Hodor. Or possibly Hodor. But it could be Hodor.
But seriously, with this show you almost have to think it is someone's fault. Kids doing something they shouldn't have been doing, or fucking with him and making Hodor do something he didn't want to do, and it ended badly. Maybe Benjen Stark, maybe it has something to do with why he took the Black. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet:
Well, my guess is Hodor. Or possibly Hodor. But it could be Hodor.
But seriously, with this show you almost have to think it is someone's fault. Kids doing something they shouldn't have been doing, or fucking with him and making Hodor do something he didn't want to do, and it ended badly. Maybe Benjen Stark, maybe it has something to do with why he took the Black.
"Took the black"? Is that like taking head? [Reply]
But seriously, with this show you almost have to think it is someone's fault. Kids doing something they shouldn't have been doing, or ****ing with him and making Hodor do something he didn't want to do, and it ended badly.
Yeah probably. Took a hit to that area of his head or something. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I think they cover the three "Goods," but I disagree with the way you aligned them.
Jon Snow is a classic lawful good character, like most Starks. He has a code of honor that he won't bend from, no matter the costs.
Tyrion is a classic neutral good character. He wants to do good, but he is willing to accomplish it in many ways.
And Dany is a classic chaotic good character. She has a code by which she abides, but she also reacts strongly and makes decisions quickly.
See, I am interpreting Lawful-Chaotic within the social code of the game universe as well as story structure. It refers to how much latitude each character has for independent actions that run contrary to convention as well as how strongly they are bound by the roles they are required to play in order to move the story along. Dany is practically a robot. Jon can take actions within a loose framework. Tyrion is completely unbound. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet:
Well, my guess is Hodor. Or possibly Hodor. But it could be Hodor.
But seriously, with this show you almost have to think it is someone's fault. Kids doing something they shouldn't have been doing, or fucking with him and making Hodor do something he didn't want to do, and it ended badly. Maybe Benjen Stark, maybe it has something to do with why he took the Black.
Good possible angle on Benjen. We never heard why he went to the nights watch.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned, you guys notice the chops on the young man teaching Ned and Benjen to fight? I Bet those epic one of a kind sideburns grow gray and tie together at the chin when he grows older. Then gets beheaded by Theon..... [Reply]
Saw a fan theory that he was trying to "hold the door" for Lyanna to escape and now can only repeat her last command "Hold the door" to "Ho Da Door" to "Hodor". [Reply]
