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This is why I kinda hate Daenerys. Apart from her spending 2 full tomes just wandering about like a bubble-headed teenager trying to bang the help, her entitlement just annoys the shit out of me.
Oh, and Daenerys is the most boring character in the entire show. Her entire deal is "I'm pretty and sometimes dragons show up." I blame the actress. She just isn't very good. And now she won't even show her boobs/butt anymore. Boooooooo. Look at what that one woman did with the Cersei role. She has now (from what I hear) changed the very nature of the character from what it was in the source material. Enough that people who have read the books complain that she is a bit too relatable. [Reply]
Originally Posted by listopencil:
Oh, and Daenerys is the most boring character in the entire show. Her entire deal is "I'm pretty and sometimes dragons show up." I blame the actress. She just isn't very good. And now she won't even show her boobs/butt anymore. Boooooooo. Look at what that one woman did with the Cersei role. She has now (from what I hear) changed the very nature of the character from what it was in the source material. Enough that people who have read the books complain that she is a bit too relatable.
Why blame the actress?
Her book character is every bit the mewling, vapid waste of effort that her television show character is.
To that extent, the actress has perfectly captured the source material. [Reply]
Taena Merryweather is a Tyrell double agent, feeding Cersei false reports and also updating the Tyrell's on Cersei's machinations.
Loras is not dying on Dragonstone. Instead he removed himself from being a champion for Cersei in a trial by combat. He also gained his own naval command in the process.
Margaery allowed herself to be arrested to lure Cersei into her own trap.
Margaery has been frequently meeting with Olenna in the Kingswood, plotting against Cersei and preparing to consolidate their power.
Basically Cersei dug a grave for Margaery, but then the Tyrell's simply pushed Cersei in. [Reply]
The Tyrells certainly conspired with Littlefinger to murder Joffrey, though that really argues in favor of them. On the other hand they have pimped Marjory out to whoever happens to be king at the moment, so they are clearly power hungry. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Why blame the actress?
Her book character is every bit the mewling, vapid waste of effort that her television show character is.
To that extent, the actress has perfectly captured the source material.
It's the way she presents the character. So many shots of her slowly walking forward with her arms rigidly at her sides. She's basically just cover art for a 1970's fantasy novel. I would hope that after several years she could bring that character to life despite the source material. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
The essence of theory is that:
Taena Merryweather is a Tyrell double agent, feeding Cersei false reports and also updating the Tyrell's on Cersei's machinations.
Loras is not dying on Dragonstone. Instead he removed himself from being a champion for Cersei in a trial by combat. He also gained his own naval command in the process.
Margaery allowed herself to be arrested to lure Cersei into her own trap.
Margaery has been frequently meeting with Olenna in the Kingswood, plotting against Cersei and preparing to consolidate their power.
Basically Cersei dug a grave for Margaery, but then the Tyrell's simply pushed Cersei in.
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Meera doesn't need to be Jon's secret twin to be a rider. Also, Tyrion doesn't need to be a secret Targaryen to be a rider. Neither does Arya, Bran, Theon, Varys, Sandor or Moonboy for all I know. There's nothing saying that all 3 dragon riders need to be Targaryens.
There's not really anything saying that there will be 3 dragon riders either, just that "the dragon will have 3 heads". It's not even really a prophecy, just a Targaryen tradition based on their first conquest. Since there are 3 dragons, there are technically already 3 dragon heads.
This is all assuming that the prophecies are legitimate in the first place. This is pretty questionable since most prophecies come through dreams and visions, and we already know of one character that can manipulate other people's dreams and visions.
There will be at least 1 more Targaryen, if not two. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RustShack:
So who else has had dragons other than Targaryens?
Tons of Valyrians did before The Doom. What's special about the Targaryens is that they fled Valyria before shit hit the fan so they were basically the only ones left alive.
Also, as has been mentioned, dragons came from Asshai and may or may not still be alive there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The Starks. Look at history and ask yourself what we have here; you know they're pretty much just warring tribesman, right? Like, Icelandic Vikings. They have no business ruling a Continent.
