Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
I know Montana, he was stupid and lucky confronting someone like that...:-)
Yeah he stayed in his rig which was just as well. My German Shepherd had kind of a low growl going on because she could tell I was getting pissed off. My Doberman was like, whatever. :-) Fucking park Nazi. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunit35:
Thanks. It’s not really anyone’s business as to why people don’t wear a mask or why someone brings their kids into a store.
Mask...eh, your choice. But right now it kinda is everyone else's business as far as the kids. Menard's actually has a ban on kids under the age of 16 at the moment. [Reply]
Distinctive pattern of lung damage noted with COVID-19.
So it’s not just the flu?!?!?!
I think the "it's just the flu" crowd has come around, (or they've been banned from this thread.)
I wonder how common it is for people to have that type of lung damage? Is it just the people with severe cases, or does it include people who get milder cases as well? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
I've always liked p90x since it seems so comprehensive. I've never made more than n00b gains with it, but that's probably more about diet than anything.
Ya diet helps but the amount of energy you need to workout 7 days a week you needs carbs , I freaking hated the yoga so skipped that, Plyo once a week is crazy good for cardio. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Mask...eh, your choice. But right now it kinda is everyone else's business as far as the kids. Menard's actually has a ban on kids under the age of 16 at the moment.
I’m not leaving my children in the vehicle while I run into a store. Not happening. If there is not a ban on children inside a store, then in fact, it really is nobody else’s business.
Or am I supposed to leave a 7 and 4 year old at home unsupervised? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunit35:
I’m not leaving my children in the vehicle while I run into a store. Not happening. If there is not a ban on children inside a store, then in fact, it really is nobody else’s business.
Or am I supposed to leave a 7 and 4 year old at home unsupervised?
That's not my issue to figure out. But be assured, you're not the only one whose life is being complicated by this.
At any rate, you gotta do what you gotta do I suppose, but just understand, in this case, it IS their business. It's not even debatable. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Mask...eh, your choice. But right now it kinda is everyone else's business as far as the kids. Menard's actually has a ban on kids under the age of 16 at the moment.
If someone’s kids are inside a cart, minding their own business, then whoever is in the store should also be minding their own business.
I’ll be sure to leave them at home next time I need to do adult stuff at a store. I’ll let DHS know what I’m doing as well. We’ll see how that goes. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Ya diet helps but the amount of energy you need to workout 7 days a week you needs carbs , I freaking hated the yoga so skipped that, Plyo once a week is crazy good for cardio.
I liked the 2nd half of the yoga with the balance postures... thought those helped. The yoga half is insanely repetitive and boring though. Yeah, a few people who are far fitter than I am have all said Plyo is legit.
If I start it again, I'll probably modify it to do every other day, because it does seem excessive overall. I could make it through most of them (not Plyo), but by the end I'm no where near max weight, which is the knock on that program..
that it ends up being much more about endurance than gains. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TLO:
I'm like 5'7 and 160. The BMI chart always seemed strange to me. It says I'm overweight, but whatever. I'm definitely not in as good of shape as I used to be. Fitness always felt like a chore to me if it didn't involve playing sports.
Errrrrr.... Sorry. I'm 6'5. Bench 350+ pounds. Have an 11 inch dong. Can run the 40 in 4.3 seconds flat.
Still can't believe we lowered the standard to only 11". [Reply]
