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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Trump supporters storm the Capitol
Lex Luthor 02:13 PM 01-06-2021
The law and order candidate.






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Donger 01:38 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by Al Czervik:
:-)

Hold on....So Trump didnt incite the crowd to stop the transfer of power???
You have been spewing that for a year.... Now its the oath keepers????

Make up your mind Dong
Of course he did. Why do you ask?
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Al Czervik 01:42 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by Donger:
Of course he did. Why do you ask?
:-)

Per your own article:

""All I see Trump doing is complaining. I see no intent by him to do anything," Rhodes allegedly wrote. "So the patriots are taking it into their own hands. They've had enough," he allegedly said on Signal at 1:38 p.m. that day, shortly after the siege had begun."

So, if we are going to charge him based off of his words....and that is a fact.
So is the above.....Right?
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Donger 01:44 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by Al Czervik:
:-)

Per your own article:

""All I see Trump doing is complaining. I see no intent by him to do anything," Rhodes allegedly wrote. "So the patriots are taking it into their own hands. They've had enough," he allegedly said on Signal at 1:38 p.m. that day, shortly after the siege had begun."

So, if we are going to charge him based off of his words....and that is a fact.
So is the above.....Right?
No. These charges have nothing to do with what Trump did, wanted to happen and what took place that day.

Again:

in·cite

/inˈsīt/
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verb
verb: incite; 3rd person present: incites; past tense: incited; past participle: incited; gerund or present participle: inciting

encourage or stir up (violent or unlawful behavior).
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jdubya 02:05 PM 01-13-2022
Has anybody been charged with insurrection yet?
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Al Czervik 02:14 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by Donger:
No. These charges have nothing to do with what Trump did, wanted to happen and what took place that day.

Again:

in·cite

/inˈsīt/
Learn to pronounce
verb
verb: incite; 3rd person present: incites; past tense: incited; past participle: incited; gerund or present participle: inciting

encourage or stir up (violent or unlawful behavior).
:-)
Have you bought yours yet?
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Pitt Gorilla 02:54 PM 01-13-2022
WTF is wrong with people?

Republicans who falsified Michigan electoral college vote under scrutiny from Congress, Attorney General

Falsified documents claiming Michigan’s electors voted for former President Donald Trump were given by state election officials to a congressional panel investigating the Jan. 6, 2021 riot.

Sixteen Republicans, including the current co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, signed certificates asserting they were Michigan’s presidential electors and sent the illegitimate documents to the National Archive. The unofficial documents were part of a failed Republican strategy to overturn President Joe Biden’s victory in battleground states, which is under new scrutiny from a U.S. House panel and the Michigan Attorney General’s office.

Each political party nominates its own slate of electors, but only electors representing the candidate who wins the popular vote can participate in the Electoral College. President Joe Biden won the election in Michigan by 154,000 votes and Michigan’s 16 Electoral College votes were officially recorded for Biden on Dec. 14, 2021, in accordance with state law.

On the same day, Republican nominees gathered at the Michigan Republican Party headquarters in Lansing to sign the unofficial documents. The documents also falsely claimed Republican nominees signed the certificates in the Michigan Capitol.

A group of Republican lawmakers tried to escort their nominees into the state Capitol to deliver the documents. They were denied entry by the Michigan State Police.

Three days earlier, the U.S. Supreme Court dismissed a lawsuit backed by 15 state lawmakers and 4 members of Congress seeking to invalidate Michigan’s election results.

A dozen Republicans also signed a separate legal brief arguing Michigan’s electoral votes should not be counted until the state Legislature certifies the results. Michigan’s Board of State Canvassers had already certified the election results as required by the state Constitution.

Trump pressured former Vice President Mike Pence to install Republican electors or reject Democratic electors from swing states Biden won in response to unproven fraud allegations. Pence declined, arguing he had no legal basis to intervene in the Electoral College result.

Documents provided to MLive by the Michigan Department of State show a representative of the National Archive notified Michigan Bureau of Elections Director Jonathan Brater and the governor’s chief legal counsel about the “unofficial certificates” on Jan. 8, 2021. The email stated the Republican votes were invalid because they lacked the governor’s signature.

The email, and a copy of the unofficial documents, were sent to the U.S. House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol. The committee was formed in June 2021 to look into election interference and organizing efforts that led to the violent riot.

MDOS also sent the committee an email from the North Oakland Republican Club encouraging poll challengers to visit Detroit’s absentee ballot processing center on Nov. 4, 2020. “Do not let Criminals steal our country” was included in the email’s subject line.

Brater, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson and MDOS Chief Legal Counsel Mike Brady were interviewed by House committee staff on Nov. 30, 2021. A department spokesperson said they answered questions about the 2020 election and events leading up to the U.S. Capitol riot, but declined to go into further detail.

The Michigan Republican Party has not been contacted by the Jan. 6 committee, according to a spokesperson. The party declined to comment further on the alternate elector strategy.

A spokesperson for the Michigan Attorney General’s Office said the documents are part of an ongoing investigation into “election-related matters.” No other details on the timing or scope of the investigation were provided to MLive.

Richard Friedman, a University of Michigan constitutional law professor, said Republicans who signed the unofficial documents are unlikely to face criminal charges but ought to be condemned for the “shameful” attempt to overturn Michigan’s election results.

Michigan election law does include a provision against forgery, but Friedman said it’s unclear whether that applies.

“Nobody looked at this and say Republicans must have won Michigan because of what these people said,” Friedman said. “It just strikes me as very weak. I’m still left uneasy by the fact that this was a bad thing. They should have known full well that they lost and the essence of democracy is recognizing that you lost.”

Ingham County Clerk Barb Byrum, a Democrat, said the group of Republican nominees should face punishment for “attempting to subvert democracy” in a blog post about the incident.

“We cannot wait another year,” she wrote. “We cannot wait for the January 6th Committee to do this work for us. We have a vested interest to ensure that our state’s votes are not stolen away from us. And the best way to ensure that is to punish those that tried to the fullest extent of the law.”

Former Michigan Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land and Gerald Wall were GOP nominees who did not sign the documents. They were replaced by Kent Thompson and James Renner. Land did not respond to a request for comment Wednesday.

Republicans who did try to cast votes for Trump include Michigan Republican Party Co-Chair Meshawn Maddock, MIGOP Grassroots Vice-Chair Marian Sheridan, Republican National Committeewoman Kathy Berden, Shelby Township Clerk Stanely Grot, District 2 Republican Party Chair Kent Vanderwood, Rose Rook, Mayra Rodriguez, Hank Choate, Mari-Ann Henry, John Haggard, Clifford Frost, Timothy King and Amy Facchinello.

Sheridan, King and Haggard were also plaintiffs in an unsuccessful lawsuit to overturn Michigan’s 2020 results.
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Donger 03:55 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by Al Czervik:
:-)
Have you bought yours yet?

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Just Passin' By 05:57 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by :
...The committee again demanded that Google parent company Alphabet, Twitter, Reddit and Meta — formerly known as Facebook — hand over a slew of records related to domestic terrorism, the spread of misinformation and efforts to influence or overturn the 2020 election.

"Two key questions for the Select Committee are how the spread of misinformation and violent extremism contributed to the violent attack on our democracy, and what steps — if any — social media companies took to prevent their platforms from being breeding grounds for radicalizing people to violence," Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., said in a statement Thursday...
January 6 committee subpoenas Google, Facebook, Twitter and Reddit in probe of Capitol attack
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GloryDayz 07:05 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by jdubya:
Has anybody been charged with insurrection yet?
Bump.
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Bob Dole 07:31 PM 01-13-2022
INSURRECTION!!!

DOMESTIC TERROR!!

THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!!!!

WORST DAY EVAR!!!!

I'm sure I'm forgetting some things.
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Just Passin' By 07:57 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by jdubya:
Has anybody been charged with insurrection yet?
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Bump.

Just today:


Oath Keepers founder arrested in Texas for role in Jan. 6 insurrection, charged with sedition
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Pitt Gorilla 08:53 PM 01-13-2022
Mesa County grand jury will investigate allegations of official misconduct, tampering with election equipment

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...tion-equipment
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Bump 09:02 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by Donger:
No. These charges have nothing to do with what Trump did, wanted to happen and what took place that day.

Again:

in·cite

/inˈsīt/
Learn to pronounce
verb
verb: incite; 3rd person present: incites; past tense: incited; past participle: incited; gerund or present participle: inciting

encourage or stir up (violent or unlawful behavior).

why don't they charge the feds that did just that at that event? If it truly was a pearl harbor + 9/11, people like Epps who "led the charge" and those security guards who opened the magnetic doors should be charged right? Too bad they still won't release all that surveillance footage as well. If it was 9/11 + pearl harbor, shouldn't they have tried to prevent it rather than encourage it?
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Bump 09:04 PM 01-13-2022
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
INSURRECTION!!!

DOMESTIC TERROR!!

THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!!!!

WORST DAY EVAR!!!!

I'm sure I'm forgetting some things.
it looks like they are building a cement wall around the white house now! Hopefully future security guards won't just open up the hard to open doors for them if it ever happens again.

DC is foreign soil now, and trespassing on foreign soil is a much bigger crime than you'd think.
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BleedingRed 09:43 PM 01-13-2022
Everytime I see this thread boosted my hopes get up that they brought guns this time.
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