I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
If you are going to play with excess deaths remember that 2017-2018 flu season was bigger than the Mighty Corona 2020.
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Admit you were wrong
I've admitted when I'm wrong many times on this site. On this topic today, no one has even been willing to lift a finger to provide any reasonable basis to back up these claims. [Reply]
Originally Posted by banyon:
I've admitted when I'm wrong many times on this site. On this topic today, no one has even been willing to lift a finger to provide any reasonable basis to back up these claims.
Well I went the extra mile and there is no hard feelings from me. Now sit back and enjoy the Donger Spin-Drive [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Oh Donger I thought it was just "Some" I guess its hard for you to admit you're wrong tho I understand. Just like the treason thing.
Its still some. Again, what did the 670,000 Americans listed as COVID deaths REALLY die from?
Just checking to see if you have noticed you're wrong yet
So your response to my statement that the only evidence I've ever had presented on this was an out of context Tweet is to present me with another out of context Tweet?
Speaker 24: (01:39:18)
Can you be sure, I mean you hear from coroners that that’s not necessarily the case. How can you be confident about that and is there any concern that it skews the data that you’re trying to collect in terms of projections and things like that?
Dr. Birx: (01:39:32)
I think that would apply more to rural areas that may not have the same level of testing. But I am pretty confident in New York City and New Jersey and places that have these large outbreaks and COVID only hospitals. I can tell you they are testing. New York and New Jersey together have by proportion are testing extraordinary well as Washington State and Louisiana. So I don’t see that there’s been a barrier in testing to diagnosis.
Dr. Fauci: (01:40:00)
I think there’s so much focus now on coronavirus that particularly if you take New York, which we all know is having a disproportionately higher proportion of the burden of the entire country is right now in New York. I can’t imagine if someone comes in with coronavirus goes to an ICU and they have an underlying heart condition and they die, they’re going to say cause of death, heart attack. I cannot see that happening. So I don’t think it’s going to be a problem.
They were talking about the UNDERCOUNT, not just randomly assigning a Gun shot victim as a covid death.
And, of course, as Donger points out, that doesn't explain the excess death totals YOY. [Reply]