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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Dave Chapelle's "The Closer": He Fucking Roasts Everyone
AdolfOliverBush 11:30 AM 10-12-2021
Of course comedy is subjective, but I loved it. Chappelle absolutely does not give a rat's ass about backlash for his words. Comedy should be without limits. I think even us maniacs in CPDC who watch it will mostly give it a thumbs up.

Netflix chief Ted Sarandos defends controversial Dave Chappelle special in staff memo: Reports
Jenna Ryu
USA TODAY

Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos is defending his decision to keep comedian Dave Chappelle's controversial special "The Closer" on the streaming service.

In a Friday staff memo obtained by Variety and The Verge, Sarandos pledged Netflix's commitment to the special, despite backlash about the comedian's transphobic comments. "Chappelle is one of the most popular stand-up comedians today, and we have a long standing deal with him," Sarandos wrote in Chappelle's defense.

He continued: "As with our other talent, we work hard to support their creative freedom – even though this means there will always be content on Netflix some people believe is harmful, like 'Cuties,' '365 Days,' '13 Reasons Why,' or 'My Unorthodox Life.' "

Chappelle drew criticism for his comments in the special about the transgender community, including his defense of author J. K. Rowling, who previously conflated sex with gender and defended ideas suggesting that changing one's biological sex was a threat to her own gender identity.

"They canceled J.K. Rowling – my God," Chappelle said. "Effectually she said gender was a fact, the trans community got mad as (expletive), they started calling her a TERF… I'm Team TERF. I agree. I agree, man. Gender is a fact."

TERF is an acronym that stands for "trans exclusionary radical feminists" and describes feminists who are transphobic.

In the memo, Sarandos used Chappelle's previous special "Sticks & Stones" as an example, writing that it was also "controversial" and "our most watched, stickiest, and most award winning stand-up special to date."

USA TODAY has reached out to Netflix for comment.

Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos defended comedian Dave Chappelle's controversial comedy special, "The Closer." Sarandos also said Netflix doesn't believe that "The Closer" promotes hate speech.

"Several of you have also asked where we draw the line on hate. We don’t allow titles on Netflix that are designed to incite hate or violence, and we don’t believe 'The Closer' crosses that line," he said.

"I recognize, however, that distinguishing between commentary and harm is hard, especially with stand-up comedy which exists to push boundaries. Some people find the art of stand-up to be mean-spirited but our members enjoy it, and it’s an important part of our content offering."

"The Closer," the sixth installment in the comedian's Netflix deal, which the "Chappelle's Show" comedian describes as "his last special for a minute," includes tongue-in-cheek jokes about race, the coronavirus pandemic and negotiating "the release of DaBaby" after the rapper's homophobic comments.

Many on social media slammed Chappelle and the streaming platform, including writer Jaclyn Moore, who also serves as showrunner for Netflix's "Dear White People."

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"I've been thrown against walls because, 'I'm not a "real" woman,' " Moore, who is transgender, tweeted. "I've had beer bottles thrown at me. So, @Netflix, I'm done."

Advocacy group GLAAD responded to the memo Monday.

“Netflix has a policy that content ‘designed to incite hate or violence’ is not allowed on the platform, but we all know that anti-LGBTQ content does exactly that," GLAAD said in a statement. "While Netflix is home to groundbreaking LGBTQ stories, now is the time for Netflix execs to listen to LGBTQ employees, industry leaders, and audiences and commit to living up to their own standards.”

Last week, the group tweeted that Chappelle's brand "has become synonymous with ridiculing trans people and other marginalized communities."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...ts/6094754001/
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chiefzilla1501 02:55 PM 10-20-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
These posts show how few of you have watched his show. He didn’t defiantly stand anti-tranny at all. His entire second half was some weird type of appologia of his earlier bits and why he’s actually truly not-anti-tranny after all.

After one quip about how “gender is real”, he did some tortured long (boring) recount of how he made friends with a tranny comedian. And at the end begged the LGBT crazies to stop “punching down” on him.

I lost respect for him when he closed that way. Went out with a whimper instead of a bang.
Yeah, because Chapelle doesn't hate trannies. Nor does he hate white people. He's a comedian. He makes jokes about people and doesn't give a shit what people think. Why does a comedian have to hate someone to make jokes about them? What a silly concept. And honestly it's what's wrong with so much comedy today. So much of comedy these days is just taking lazy shots at easy targets usually to pander to the crowd.
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Mephistopheles Janx 12:51 AM 10-21-2021


Holy shit... taking the dude's sign (while making physical contact thus assault and robbery) then screaming that he has a weapon is about the single most bitch thing I can remember see one adult who disagrees with another doing.

Bet the dude went home feeling like a real fucking hero too.
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Baby Lee 05:09 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx:


Holy shit... taking the dude's sign (while making physical contact thus assault and robbery) then screaming that he has a weapon is about the single most bitch thing I can remember see one adult who disagrees with another doing.

Bet the dude went home feeling like a real fucking hero too.
Have you considered lowering your expectations? I hear it's the next big thing.
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chiefzilla1501 05:18 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx:


Holy shit... taking the dude's sign (while making physical contact thus assault and robbery) then screaming that he has a weapon is about the single most bitch thing I can remember see one adult who disagrees with another doing.

Bet the dude went home feeling like a real ****ing hero too.
I'm really intrigued with where Andrew yang will take the Forward party. It will never get momentum. But there are guys like him who see this nonsense and give a voice to the silent majority in the middle. Amash is the conservative equivalent. Chapelle supported yang and yang spoke out against cancel culture. Because that's what's needed. A strong voice for the middle. Leftists who speak out against absurd extremes and conservatives who do the same. Because the voice of the extremes is so powerful that social and mainstream media would rather eat their own than speak out against the vocal minority. Dave is still wildly popular and yet social and mainstream media will have you believe he's some kind of pariah.

Because I love these wedge issues that pit extreme against extreme. You have LGBTQ protesting against one of the more powerful recent civil rights voices. And black people having to clap back at a marginalized group. All over a silly thing is not getting so damn offended over something so trivial.
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chiefzilla1501 05:34 AM 10-21-2021
I think a lot of people were shocked to realize how popular norm was. Sad he had to take grenades while he was living. I think a lot of people are equally shocked at how quickly the mob turned on Chapelle.

It just goes to show that there is a silent majority who have way more common sense than they get credit for. And that there's way more commonality between two sides of this majority than we realize.
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lawrenceRaider 05:47 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx:


Holy shit... taking the dude's sign (while making physical contact thus assault and robbery) then screaming that he has a weapon is about the single most bitch thing I can remember see one adult who disagrees with another doing.

Bet the dude went home feeling like a real fucking hero too.
That individual crowding/making contact should be arrested. These people need to face consequences for their actions.

Fat boy would have been perfectly within his rights to knock them right the fuck out.
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Baby Lee 06:08 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I think a lot of people were shocked to realize how popular norm was. Sad he had to take grenades while he was living. I think a lot of people are equally shocked at how quickly the mob turned on Chapelle.

It just goes to show that there is a silent majority who have way more common sense than they get credit for. And that there's way more commonality between two sides of this majority than we realize.
Just gonna put this out there, ruminate on it if you will, disregard if you prefer. I'm done arguing about it, . . . but I submit that plenty of us realized the level of commonality that SHOULD have been there, but some people were either buying into this woke crowd mishegas or decided that OMB was a more existential threat and sided with them out of pique.
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chiefzilla1501 07:01 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Just gonna put this out there, ruminate on it if you will, disregard if you prefer. I'm done arguing about it, . . . but I submit that plenty of us realized the level of commonality that SHOULD have been there, but some people were either buying into this woke crowd mishegas or decided that OMB was a more existential threat and sided with them out of pique.
I think the silent majority can listen to jokes without being offended or can watch a movie without getting outraged about cultural appropriation or the woke topic of the week. Many of these people sympathize with woke causes but despise outrage culture. Social media is such a piece of shit because it's grossly exaggerated the voices of the extremes
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Mephistopheles Janx 07:03 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I think the silent majority can listen to jokes without being offended or can watch a movie without getting outraged about cultural appropriation or the woke topic of the week. Many of these people sympathize with woke causes but despise outrage culture. Social media is such a piece of shit because it's grossly exaggerated the voices of the extremes
agreed
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Baby Lee 07:09 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I think the silent majority can listen to jokes without being offended or can watch a movie without getting outraged about cultural appropriation or the woke topic of the week. Many of these people sympathize with woke causes but despise outrage culture. Social media is such a piece of shit because it's grossly exaggerated the voices of the extremes
Those who are outraged would say that your sympathy absent outrage is cowardice.

It's not the doing on those who aren't outraged, but the fact is matters of this nature are no longer amenable to moderation.

'Woke causes' demand outrage until their woke perspectives prevail, and 'I sympathize, but I don't sympathize enough to be outraged' is insufficient.

And the unfortunate sequelae is, if your sympathy is sufficient that you are ALSO loathe to OPPOSE outrage, those who do oppose the outrage of woke culture will be constrained find cowardice in you as well.

That is the PURPOSE and DESIGN of aggressive activism.
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notorious 07:14 AM 10-21-2021
Comedians need to activity fight back or their craft is going to continue morphing into undesirable content.


Seinfeld and a few others saw this coming a long time ago. They got out. Hopefully when they see an opening they enter the fight.
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Baby Lee 07:41 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I think the silent majority can listen to jokes without being offended or can watch a movie without getting outraged about cultural appropriation or the woke topic of the week. Many of these people sympathize with woke causes but despise outrage culture. Social media is such a piece of shit because it's grossly exaggerated the voices of the extremes
Should also add, by their metrics 'despise outrage culture' is indistinguishable from 'despise vulnerable and oppressed trans persons.'
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chiefzilla1501 07:44 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Those who are outraged would say that your sympathy absent outrage is cowardice.

It's not the doing on those who aren't outraged, but the fact is matters of this nature are no longer amenable to moderation.

'Woke causes' demand outrage until their woke perspectives prevail, and 'I sympathize, but I don't sympathize enough to be outraged' is insufficient.

And the unfortunate sequelae is, if your sympathy is sufficient that you are ALSO loathe to OPPOSE outrage, those who do oppose the outrage of woke culture will be constrained find cowardice in you as well.

That is the PURPOSE and DESIGN of aggressive activism.
That isn't exclusive to woke shaming. I'd say there are a lot of people who like where Trump stands on topics like immigration and nationalism but hate the extreme dialogue that comes with the most vocal parts of it. The silent majority extends left and right. There's a reason the majority of the country doesn't identify with anybody. It's not that they don't have a position. Many have strong views but tend to latch on to one extreme because they are very opposed to the opposite extreme.

On the one hand, I kind of get it. Our system is so stubborn that it takes these kinds of extremes to get anything done. Trump and woke culture for all their flaws have also raised awareness to key issues. But id bet the majority of the country on both sides resents that these are the only two choices right now.
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Wisconsin_Chief 07:44 AM 10-21-2021
China is testing space nukes and this is the type of shit our citizens are worried about.

We deserve everything that's coming to us.
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Mr. Plow 08:13 AM 10-21-2021
Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx:


Holy shit... taking the dude's sign (while making physical contact thus assault and robbery) then screaming that he has a weapon is about the single most bitch thing I can remember see one adult who disagrees with another doing.

Bet the dude went home feeling like a real fucking hero too.

That guy broke his sign, handed the stick back to him and then started yelling "He's got a weapon!"

He was a grown ass man and he was so offended by another persons opinion that "Jokes are funny" that he had to steal a sign, break it, then claim the guy was holding a weapon. :-):-)

Good on the guy for not freaking out when he took his sign - just laughed it off.
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