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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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Donger 09:02 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
No randomized control.

We do know that the vaccinated die more than the unvaccinated of all causes in the UK based upon the public data.



But I do see why you would change the subject from the fact that 82% of the people dying of Covid in the UK were vaccinated and now 87% in Scotland.

Get jabbed and die!!!!!!!!!!!
It's based on the same data, you scumbag. You just don't "like" those data, because it shows that death/100,000 rate is vastly higher among the unvaccinated among ALL age cohorts.
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Donger 09:02 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
You should probably never post again...it you had any self-respect.
Why's that?
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MahomesMagic 09:07 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
It's based on the same data, you scumbag. You just don't "like" those data, because it shows that death/100,000 rate is vastly higher among the unvaccinated among ALL age cohorts.
The data shows that more than 80% of those dying from Covid were injected with the Covid experimental shots.


I have already explained the problems with rates without knowing comparisons of populations but this is over your little head.


But since we are talking about rates the same UK health data shows in every age category over 30 the injected have higher infection rates than the unvaccinated.

You call that effective? Seems like NEGATIVE efficacy.
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Donger 09:10 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
The data shows that more than 80% of those dying from Covid were injected with the Covid experimental shots.


I have already explained the problems with rates without knowing comparisons of populations but this is over your little head.
And that makes sense if you understand Bayes' theorem.

There's no problem with the rates. You just don't like them, because it shows that death/100,000 rate is vastly higher among the unvaccinated among ALL age cohorts.

Shameless piece of scum.
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MahomesMagic 09:13 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
And that makes sense if you understand Bayes' theorem.

There's no problem with the rates. You just don't like them, because it shows that death/100,000 rate is vastly higher among the unvaccinated among ALL age cohorts.

Shameless piece of scum.
Wrong. You are lying. No real effect until over 50, especially 70+

But unlike you I know all the data.
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MahomesMagic 09:17 AM 10-28-2021
In the end, a few months protection from Covid and all you have are some rates which don't correspond to the reality on the ground?!

Remember 99%, almost 100% effective?

How is that working out.
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Donger 09:18 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Wrong. You are lying. No real effect until over 50, especially 70+

But unlike you I know all the data.
Like these data? You know these, because I've given them to you before. Fake data!

:-)

From 29 December 2020 (21 days after the start of the vaccination programme in Scotland to account for protection to develop after the first dose) to 01 October 2021, there have been 4,444 confirmed COVID-19 related deaths with a positive PCR result and where COVID-19 was recorded as a primary or secondary cause on the death certificate.

Of these, 76.8% (n=3,414) were in unvaccinated individuals, 6.7% (n=299) had received one dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 16.4% (n=731) had received two doses. The risk of death from COVID-19 is strongly linked to age, with the most vulnerable being in the over 70s age group

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MahomesMagic 09:20 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Like these data? You know these, because I've given them to you before. Fake data!

:-)

From 29 December 2020 (21 days after the start of the vaccination programme in Scotland to account for protection to develop after the first dose) to 01 October 2021, there have been 4,444 confirmed COVID-19 related deaths with a positive PCR result and where COVID-19 was recorded as a primary or secondary cause on the death certificate.

Of these, 76.8% (n=3,414) were in unvaccinated individuals, 6.7% (n=299) had received one dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 16.4% (n=731) had received two doses. The risk of death from COVID-19 is strongly linked to age, with the most vulnerable being in the over 70s age group
Yes, average in the deaths from 2020 (and before most people were classified as vaccinated) to make the vaccines look better.

Now we are seeing every month that the vaccinated are dying more than the unvaccinated, last 30 days was 87% of those dying from/with Covid were injected.

If we just go February to now in the UK it is more than 62% vaccinated and currently over 80%.
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Donger 09:21 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
In the end, a few months protection from Covid and all you have are some rates which don't correspond to the reality on the ground?!

Remember 99%, almost 100% effective?

How is that working out.
I have no issue at all acknowledging that the efficacy of the vaccines wanes and is not as good against Delta as the original strain. See, that's the difference between you and I. I don't ignore or lie about data which I don't like.

Anything else?
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MahomesMagic 09:23 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
I have no issue at all acknowledging that the efficacy of the vaccines wanes and is not as good against Delta as the original strain. See, that's the difference between you and I. I don't ignore or lie about data which I don't like.

Anything else?
You lie all the time. You are a Pharma propagandist.

But in the end anything the State wants, you are there to lick boots for.
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Donger 09:23 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Yes, average in the deaths from 2020 (and before most people were classified as vaccinated) to make the vaccines look better.

Now we are seeing every month that the vaccinated are dying more than the unvaccinated, last 30 days was 87% of those dying from/with Covid were injected.

If we just go February to now in the UK it is more than 62% vaccinated and currently over 80%.
Yes, it's clear that you'd rather ignore and dismiss ALL the cumulative data and just focus on the data from the last month. That's like if the Chiefs go on a tear and win their next four games. You'd say, "Wow! These Chiefs are awesome! 100% wins!"

Hence, why you are a disingenuous piece of shit.
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Donger 09:25 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
You lie all the time. You are a Pharma propagandist.

But in the end anything the State wants, you are there to lick boots for.
Already reduced to that? Excellent. That didn't take long at all. You must be getting used to it.
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MahomesMagic 09:26 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Yes, it's clear that you'd rather ignore and dismiss ALL the cumulative data and just focus on the data from the last month. That's like if the Chiefs go on a tear and win their next four games. You'd say, "Wow! These Chiefs are awesome! 100% wins!"

Hence, why you are a disingenuous piece of shit.

Most of the people who died in the last winter wave were unvaccinated because most of the people weren't injected (or classified as such) yet.

What happened to Bayes Theorem?


:-)
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Donger 09:30 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Most of the people who died in the last winter wave were unvaccinated because most of the people weren't injected (or classified as such) yet.

What happened to Bayes Theorem?


:-)
Well, no shit, Sherlock. What does that have to do with the efficacy of the vaccines?
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MahomesMagic 09:32 AM 10-28-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Well, no shit, Sherlock. What does that have to do with the efficacy of the vaccines?
You just starting bringing up deaths unvaccinated...


From 2020.

Why don't you tell me what this has to do with anything other than trying to pull wool over people's eyes.


Remember when you posted how 99% of those dying were unvaccinated?

You don't care about truth because your head is too far up Fauci's ass.
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