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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Minneapolis changes Columbus Day to 'Indigenous Peoples Day"
Prison Bitch 05:03 PM 09-26-2014
More liberal insanity (redundant?)



We are sending a signal across the nation and to the global community that we make these changes in the spirit of truth-telling, Council Member Alondra Cano said ahead of the Council meeting.

Now that we have established Indigenous People's Day, every child -- whether that child is native or whether that child is not -- will learn the truth about where America really comes from," added U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison.



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GloryDayz 02:01 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Adolph never heard this until today.

And hes hardly alone: most Americans get their ideas about Indians from (1) thanksgiving (2) old tv cartoons and (3) Dances With Wolves.
WTF, what about the Lone Ranger? HOW COULD YOU FORGET THAT DUDE?
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F150 02:50 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
To be fair, Native Americans weren't traitors to their country.
You have confirmed that you have zero understanding of the tribes and tribal culture. The White man discovered very early that one tribe would sell out another to curru favor and to see the enemy wiped out by the long guns.

Stay out of threads that expose you as a fraud.
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NinerDoug 02:56 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
To be fair, Native Americans weren't traitors to their country.
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
You would be wrong on that position. Plenty of NA folk sold out their neighbors.
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Adolph never heard this until today.

And hes hardly alone: most Americans get their ideas about Indians from (1) thanksgiving (2) old tv cartoons and (3) Dances With Wolves.
They didn't have "countries" in the European sense. They had tribes.

So the Pawnee sold out the Cheyenne and Arapahoe. Doesn't make them traitors. The basic unit to which they had loyalty was the tribe. Tribes warred with each other all the time.
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Loneiguana 03:00 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
They didn't have "countries" in the European sense. They had tribes.

So the Pawnee sold out the Cheyenne and Arapahoe. Doesn't make them traitors. The basic unit to which they had loyalty was the tribe. Tribes warred with each other all the time.
Nor is really in the same context as traitors to your country over the ability to own others as slaves.

Nor is recognizing native Americans with this day honoring someone who did something like fight their countrymen for the right to own another human as a slave.

Really, the whole "point" fails multiple ways.
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AdolfOliverBush 03:05 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by F150:
You have confirmed that you have zero understanding of the tribes and tribal culture. The White man discovered very early that one tribe would sell out another to curru favor and to see the enemy wiped out by the long guns.

Stay out of threads that expose you as a fraud.
What country did Native Americans betray, numbnuts? If you're unsure about the definition of "country", look it up.
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Prison Bitch 03:27 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
So the Pawnee sold out the Cheyenne and Arapahoe. Doesn't make them traitors. The basic unit to which they had loyalty was the tribe. .
This myth of tribal loyalty has been rebutted by 3 diff posters already.
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NinerDoug 03:38 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
This myth of tribal loyalty has been rebutted by 3 diff posters already.
Do you believe that there was an expectation of loyalty within tribes?

Do you believe that there was an expectation of loyalty to other tribes?
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Easy 6 03:53 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by F150:
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/HN...ns/redman.html

Twain wrote about the Indian from experience
Thats absolutely awful coming from such an otherwise enlightened man

In his experience maybe thats all true, but I've read more than enough books and watched more than enough docs to know it isn't true for all natives
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NinerDoug 04:12 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Thats absolutely awful coming from such an otherwise enlightened man

In his experience maybe thats all true, but I've read more than enough books and watched more than enough docs to know it isn't true for all natives
Disappointing indeed.
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Easy 6 04:23 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
Disappointing indeed.
Most eloquent, blisteringly racist screed I've ever seen
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NinerDoug 04:38 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Most eloquent, blisteringly racist screed I've ever seen
"Racism" wasn't really a thing back then, of course. It was, I would say, not only accepted, but expected, that if you were white, the other races were beneath you.

But even so, I would think an individual like Samuel Clemmons would have some minimal level of respect for humanity. That writing is a disgusting hit piece, that exposes a dark side to the man I did not know existed.
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Rain Man 05:32 PM 10-12-2021
This feels like awarding the game ball in the Stanford Band game to the trombone player instead of the guy who scored the touchdown.
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Prison Bitch 06:41 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Thats absolutely awful coming from such an otherwise enlightened man

In his experience maybe thats all true, but I've read more than enough books and watched more than enough docs to know it isn't true for all natives

1. Did Twain want me and my kids to become minrotities in America?

2. Did you?
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Bowser 06:45 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
To be fair, Native Americans weren't traitors to their country.
True.

But, they would slaughter their neighboring tribes and take their women to have babies and make their children slaves.
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ThaVirus 08:53 PM 10-12-2021
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Indians still pissed off that their ancestors couldn't fight. :-)
I think disease had a lot more to do with it
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