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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>911 was an inside job.
Taco John 12:06 AM 02-09-2006
After watching this, I am once and for all convinced that it was an inside job...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81991288263801


The evidence is way too strong.
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Pants 10:57 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by journeyscarab:
It also appears that those firemen are being interviewed immediately after the towers crashed or shortly thereafter when emotions were high and people possibly were not thinking logically about what was happening at the time.

We are discussing this now, 5 years later with a different perspective. Ask anyone at the height of crises about something they are being affected by and their answer is going to be less focused than after time has passed.
Really? I couldn't tell. The interview I'm talking about was carried out in some room with the fireman not wearing his uniform.
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Taco John 10:57 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Lattimer:
My guess: Taco was bored and waned to stir shit so he posted this, finding it interesting, but not really believing it. MetroMike on the other hand, lacks comprehension of reality and therefore finds this plausible.

The video starting at 50 minutes really has me going. I can't hardly believe what I'm seeing.
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Adept Havelock 11:00 AM 02-09-2006
Sorry, I don't buy the conspiracy theories. Dongers link to the Popular Mechanics article is full of solid science, for those that can be bothered to read it.

No matter how much some want to believe that 9/11 was Bush's "Burning of the Reichstag", that dog doesn't hunt.

Scientific American ran an interesting commentary on the conspiracy theories by the publisher of skeptic.com.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?cha...1583414B7F0000
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Eye Patch 11:02 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Messier:
I'm not saying you hate people. when you said people who want to believe will that's true but I was saying the same goes for people that don't want to believe.

And you didn't ask me anything.
Taco has admitted he hates Bush and will post anything that reinforces his hate... even if it's untrue...

The question is what was is in it for Osama considering it was a coordinated attack with the hijackers and the CIA agents who planted and lit the charges.
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Donger 11:03 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Adept Havelock:
Sorry, I don't buy the conspiracy theories. Dongers link to the Popular Mechanics article is full of solid science, for those that can be bothered to read it.
Peh. What fun would that be?
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Radar Chief 11:03 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Messier:
YEs it does, they tested the phone reception and the higher you go the less chance it works at their altitude those were the odds.
Again, that’s distance related. If you’re on the ground 2 miles from a tower that’s only 2 miles, but if you add to that an altitude of 3 miles up, 15,840 ft, you’re now approximately 4 miles from the tower. I’d think you’d still get reception at 4 miles, but you can see how distance grows considerably with altitude.

Originally Posted by Messier:
About the highjackers thats something I wondered, they just state where they are living and what they do for a living.
Yea, I’d give’em more credit if they could actually show’em. Whenever someone just says something like, “take my word for it” that raises red flags for me.
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journeyscarab 11:03 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Taco John:
The video starting at 50 minutes really has me going. I can't hardly believe what I'm seeing.
You've posted this same comment about 5 times. Thanks for stirring the pot. Nutsack.
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Pants 11:09 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Radar Chief:
Again, that’s distance related. If you’re on the ground 2 miles from a tower that’s only 2 miles, but if you add to that an altitude of 3 miles up, 15,840 ft, you’re now approximately 4 miles from the tower. I’d think you’d still get reception at 4 miles, but you can see how distance grows considerably with altitude.



Yea, I’d give’em more credit if they could actually show’em. Whenever someone just says something like, “take my word for it” that raises red flags for me.
I myself actually remember BBC reporting about finding 2 of the hijackers well and alive. This was a long time ago. The excuse was the evident mistaken identities.
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Donger 11:12 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Radar Chief:
Again, that’s distance related. If you’re on the ground 2 miles from a tower that’s only 2 miles, but if you add to that an altitude of 3 miles up, 15,840 ft, you’re now approximately 4 miles from the tower. I’d think you’d still get reception at 4 miles, but you can see how distance grows considerably with altitude.
Little known fact, but one of the reasons that they don't let you use your cell on an aircraft is because the RSSI of a plane-to-cell tower transmission is far greater than a call made on the ground. In other words, you'd start bumping the folks on the ground.
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Donger 11:12 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Metrolike:
I myself actually remember BBC reporting about finding 2 of the hijackers well and alive. This was a long time ago. The excuse was the evident mistaken identities.
Did you look at the Popular Mechanics link? If so, what did you think?
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Messier 11:13 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Eye Patch:
Taco has admitted he hates Bush and will post anything that reinforces his hate... even if it's untrue...

The question is what was is in it for Osama considering it was a coordinated attack with the hijackers and the CIA agents who planted and lit the charges.

I think you confused me with metrolike.

They don't suggest they worked together they say it was the government alone.
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Radar Chief 11:14 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Donger:
Little known fact, but one of the reasons that they don't let you use your cell on an aircraft is because the RSSI of a plane-to-cell tower transmission is far greater than a call made on the ground. In other words, you'd start bumping the folks on the ground.
Heh, I didn’t know that. I assumed it was ‘cause of RFI interference with the gauges in the cockpit. :-)
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Lurch 11:16 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Adept Havelock:
Sorry, I don't buy the conspiracy theories. Dongers link to the Popular Mechanics article is full of solid science, for those that can be bothered to read it.

No matter how much some want to believe that 9/11 was Bush's "Burning of the Reichstag", that dog doesn't hunt.

Scientific American ran an interesting commentary on the conspiracy theories by the publisher of skeptic.com.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?cha...1583414B7F0000
Thanks to you and Donger for bringing this back to earth....for those of us who know better, and arent' sufficiently motivated to refute this Bush-hater's fantasy by wasting more than a few minutes of our time.
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Brock 11:16 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by :
"The planes did not bring those towers down; bombs did," says www.abovetopsecret.com. Wrong. In an article in the Journal of the Minerals, Metals, and Materials Society and in subsequent interviews, Thomas Eagar, an engineering professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, explains why: steel loses 50 percent of its strength at 1,200 degrees F; 90,000 liters of jet fuel ignited other combustible materials such as rugs, curtains, furniture and paper, which continued burning after the jet fuel was exhausted, raising temperatures above 1,400 degrees F and spreading the inferno throughout each building. Temperature differentials of hundreds of degrees across single steel horizontal trusses caused them to sag--straining and then breaking the angle clips that held the beams to the vertical columns. Once one truss failed, others followed. When one floor collapsed onto the next floor below, that floor subsequently gave way, creating a pancaking effect that triggered each 500,000-ton structure to crumble. Conspiricists argue that the buildings should have fallen over on their sides, but with 95 percent of each building consisting of air, they could only have collapsed straight down.
Here's some of those facts you seem to not want to acknowledge, Metro.
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redbrian 11:16 AM 02-09-2006
Originally Posted by Metrolike:
Really? I couldn't tell. The interview I'm talking about was carried out in some room with the fireman not wearing his uniform.
How do you know it was a fireman?
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