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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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FloridaMan88 01:13 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Haha KU is a midmajor now
Villanova and Gonzaga are technically “mid majors”, right?

Both schools have built premiere basketball programs.

If KU’s goal is simply to maintain their top level basketball program they could probably achieve that outside of a power conference.
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kcclone 01:16 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
The Big 10 may first try to go bigger and bolder with their potential expansion than settling for KU and the other soon to be Big 12 orphans… i.e. trying to raid the premium schools from the Pac 12 and ACC.

I don't see anything happening fast for KU unless the ACC or P12 feels like they have to move fast.

The B1G can wait and see what their next move is because they are a clear #2 in the pecking order.

If I were them, I'd be considering, like you said "bigger and bolder" than KU. KU can always be a back up plan, and if they miss on them, they're really not out anything.

If I were the B1G I'd be looking at USC/UCLA/Washington/Oregon or raiding the ACC before I'd move on the B12 leftovers.

You're falling further behind the SEC if you add KU or ISU or anyone else in response to OU/UT.
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DJJasonp 01:17 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
BIG hoops would be awful. If you haven’t watched them, they’re slow plodding physical boring teams in hoops -just like FB. The B12 always has premier athletes, the best in the nation IMO. Even teams like Tech or Okie would go like 6-12 in League but always had some freak atheletes on the court - BIG doesn’t.


Hoops would take a big blow re: watchability.
self could go back exclusively to the high/low???

agree though - BIG hoops is horrible to watch.....and even worse is BIG refs.
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KC_Connection 01:20 PM 07-23-2021
With UT and OU gone, I'd imagine the B12 will dissolve within a few years. If KU can't hook on with a major football conference in the years to come, just create a conference with some of the other top basketball schools. At least that would be interesting to watch.
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bdj23 01:24 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Haha KU is a midmajor now
Stick to talking about sucking dick.
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Titty Meat 01:35 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by BDj23:
Stick to talking about sucking dick.
Enjoy your midmajor program.
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Rams Fan 01:36 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by BDj23:
Stick to talking about sucking dick.
I mean if KU treats their football program like UConn did, he’s not wrong.
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Mizzou_8541 01:49 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
With UT and OU gone, I'd imagine the B12 will dissolve within a few years. If KU can't hook on with a major football conference in the years to come, just create a conference with some of the other top basketball schools. At least that would be interesting to watch.
I think you all will land in the Big 10. Seems to be a lot of discussion about that today.
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Pitt Gorilla 02:03 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541:
I think you all will land in the Big 10. Seems to be a lot of discussion about that today.
So the SEC gets better while the Big Ten gets worse?
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KChiefs1 02:10 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
So the SEC gets better while the Big Ten gets worse?

What’s new?

SEC added Mizzou & TAMU while the Big Ten added Nebraska & Rutgers.
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tredadda 02:14 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
With UT and OU gone, I'd imagine the B12 will dissolve within a few years. If KU can't hook on with a major football conference in the years to come, just create a conference with some of the other top basketball schools. At least that would be interesting to watch.
It already exists and it's called the Big East. Most likely landing spot for KU.
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BryanBusby 02:19 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
On TexAgs, there was some hope Mizzouche would vote against this move.

Hahahahaha! If the SEC called their entire ath Dept and told them to hop on one leg during a Zoom call, MU would immediately agree.
Lmao like Mizzou gives a shit.

The sticklers were conference stability in the B12 and the LHN. Not an issue in the SEC.

Texas will absolutely have to lose the LHN, SEC is going nowhere. It will have a bonus of hilarity when Bevo tries to pull its weight in the conference and gets deep dicked by an Elephant.
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Rams Fan 02:29 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Lmao like Mizzou gives a shit.

The sticklers were conference stability in the B12 and the LHN. Not an issue in the SEC.

Texas will absolutely have to lose the LHN, SEC is going nowhere. It will have a bonus of hilarity when Bevo tries to pull its weight in the conference and gets deep dicked by an Elephant.
Horns down will be a thing in the SEC.
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bdj23 02:43 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Enjoy your midmajor program.
Says the fan of an irrelevant program lol
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bdj23 02:44 PM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
I mean if KU treats their football program like UConn did, he’s not wrong.
I love how a thread about conferences realigning is full of mizzou fans seething about kansas.
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