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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Pants 03:54 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Do you disagree that academics are a factor in the B10s membership decision process, or do you disagree that Nwestern is a jewel in that regard?
Northwestern is a great school. Claiming academics playing a part in this seems rather silly after you guys sought out Nebraska. AAU or not, that school has always been garbage academically.
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vailpass 03:57 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Northwestern is a great school. Claiming academics playing a part in this seems rather silly after you guys sought out Nebraska. AAU or not, that school has always been garbage academically.
If it is your position that academics play no part in the B10 school's decision on who to admit the you are either ill-informed or being intentionally obtuse. It makes no difference to me.

If you like you can read some of this story and decide whether academics is a factor in B10.

http://journalstar.com/news/local/ed...#ixzz1ZNbkAJ8I
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Titty Meat 03:59 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Northwestern is a great school. Claiming academics playing a part in this seems rather silly after you guys sought out Nebraska. AAU or not, that school has always been garbage academically.
Garbage?

http://www.arwu.org/Country2009Main....nited%20States

It's certainly no Harvard but I don't think it's an awful school.
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vailpass 04:02 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini:
Garbage?

http://www.arwu.org/Country2009Main....nited%20States

It's certainly no Harvard but I don't think it's an awful school.
Mizzou would have been a better fit but no, Nebraska is no Boise State when it comes to academics.
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Pants 04:10 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by vailpass:
If it is your position that academics play no part in the B10 school's decision on who to admit the you are either ill-informed or being intentionally obtuse. It makes no difference to me.

If you like you can read some of this story and decide whether academics is a factor in B10.

http://journalstar.com/news/local/ed...#ixzz1ZNbkAJ8I
Your link doesn't work. In either case, Big 10 just invited and accepted Nebraska which is ranked #101 by the US News.
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vailpass 04:12 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Your link doesn't work. In either case, Big 10 just invited and accepted Nebraska which is ranked #101 by the US News.
Sorry, the link worked a minute ago. If you want to persist in your folly go right ahead, I'll certainly not stop you.
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Pants 04:14 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Sorry, the link worked a minute ago. If you want to persist in your folly go right ahead, I'll certainly not stop you.
What folly is that? Did Big 10 not accept Nebraska?
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Old Dog 04:32 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by RustShack:
Lockedonsports David Locke



A Cincinnati paid site is reporting #BYU, #TCU, #Louisville, #Cincinnati, West Virginia to join Big 12 -- if Missouri stays that makes 14
Maybe Missouri is going to the SEC and they're going to kick Iowa State out to make it 12.
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|Zach| 04:35 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by truebigdog:
Maybe Missouri is going to the SEC and they're going to kick Iowa State out to make it 12.
:-)
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LiveSteam 04:37 PM 09-29-2011

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Stewie 04:37 PM 09-29-2011
MU people are sure smug.
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mnchiefsguy 04:38 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by Stewie:
MU people are sure smug.
I don't think that is the case. MU people are tired of the crap, and are excited that the university may finally have its fate in its own hands. Let's just hope they do the right thing.
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Stewie 04:42 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy:
I don't think that is the case. MU people are tired of the crap, and are excited that the university may finally have its fate in its own hands. Let's just hope they do the right thing.
The tone is, "We're leaving!"

Well good for you. Does Alabama or Georgia or Florida care? Hell no! More money for my existing SEC team? Hell yeah. Who is this Missouri team you talk about? Do they play football?
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|Zach| 04:44 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by Stewie:
The tone is, "We're leaving!"

Well good for you. Does Alabama or Georgia or Florida care? Hell no! More money for my existing SEC team? Hell yeah. Who is this Missouri team you talk about? Do they play football?
And not a single shit was given.
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|Zach| 04:45 PM 09-29-2011
Originally Posted by Stewie:
MU people are sure smug.
Kansas people are adoreable.

Get back out there and practice some free throws kid *tussling Stewie's hair*
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