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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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kcbubb 10:12 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Man, if you were running our draft we'd have a mash unit for day 1. :P
Absolutely! Why get a lesser talent when these guys have such high ceiling and will get back on the field this season. The advances in medicine are amazing and these guys should recover. Swing for the fences with the talent in the draft and sign some stop gap free agents.
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BossChief 10:20 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
I dont think theyll take 3 edge guys but hell i could get down with that.
Ojabo won’t be ready till mid season if not later and Frank Clark is going into his last year here. With the depth of this class, I couldn’t pass on Thomas. Especially with DE being really thin for the forseable future and this draft class being stacked at the position.
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htismaqe 10:46 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
Absolutely! Why get a lesser talent when these guys have such high ceiling and will get back on the field this season. The advances in medicine are amazing and these guys should recover. Swing for the fences with the talent in the draft and sign some stop gap free agents.
Or just draft guys that can play right away. You're way too locked in.
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kcbubb 10:55 AM 04-01-2022
Mention specific players when you say right, draft guys that can play right away. I’m looking for a wr that can create separation with burst. Who are the specific players you like? That’s what’s frustrating…. Y’all say don’t trade up but give me some specific alternatives rather than just players.
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htismaqe 10:57 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
Mention specific players when you say right, draft guys that can play right away. I’m looking for a wr that can create separation with burst. Who are the specific players you like? That’s what’s frustrating…. Y’all say don’t trade up but give me some specific alternatives rather than just players.
There's like a dozen players that have been offered up as alternatives. You're just so focused Williams that you haven't let those other suggestions sink in.
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The Franchise 10:58 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
Mention specific players when you say right, draft guys that can play right away. I’m looking for a wr that can create separation with burst. Who are the specific players you like? That’s what’s frustrating…. Y’all say don’t trade up but give me some specific alternatives rather than just players.
I don't even know what the fuck you're asking for at this point.

Multiple people have listed multiple players that they like and the rounds in which they would take them. People have also listed how they fit into this offense moving forward.
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htismaqe 10:59 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I don't even know what the fuck you're asking for at this point.

Multiple people have listed multiple players that they like and the rounds in which they would take them. People have also listed how they fit into this offense moving forward.
Notice how he frames the discussion.

He's basically set it up so that he can say, no matter who you suggest, "he's no Jameson Williams".
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The Franchise 11:00 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Notice how he frames the discussion.

He's basically set it up so that he can say, no matter who you suggest, "he's no Jameson Williams".
At this point....he's made me hate a Jameson Williams pick even at 29.

Fuck Jameson Williams.
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htismaqe 11:02 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
At this point....he's made me hate a Jameson Williams pick even at 29.

Fuck Jameson Williams.
Yep. I'm pretty sick of draft discussion in general, at this point. Can't wait for it to get here so we can see who they pick.
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The Franchise 11:05 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Yep. I'm pretty sick of draft discussion in general, at this point. Can't wait for it to get here so we can see who they pick.
I'm fine with the draft discussion. I actually like where it's gone with the WR group in particular. Stats and usage.

There hasn't been a lot of talk about DEs though and I think that could be a good talking point.

But fuck ever having to hear about "trading up for Jameson Williams" ever again.
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htismaqe 11:09 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I'm fine with the draft discussion. I actually like where it's gone with the WR group in particular. Stats and usage.

There hasn't been a lot of talk about DEs though and I think that could be a good talking point.

But fuck ever having to hear about "trading up for Jameson Williams" ever again.
The problem is that the DE discussion seems to veer straight to Ojabo every time. He's the Jameson Williams of this edge class.
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The Franchise 11:13 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The problem is that the DE discussion seems to veer straight to Ojabo every time. He's the Jameson Williams of this edge class.
I can see it.

But just like the WR group...there are tons of guys I would take in the 2nd or 3rd round that I would be happy with.
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staylor26 11:31 AM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The problem is that the DE discussion seems to veer straight to Ojabo every time. He's the Jameson Williams of this edge class.
I think that’s because like Williams, he’s a no-brainer if he falls to 29-30.

But unlike Williams, there’s a really good shot that he does.
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Couch-Potato 12:42 PM 04-01-2022
The Draft Network:

13. WR Williams (#29 + #103 + x2 7th's)
30. WR Burks
50. WR Austin III
62. DE Williams
94. DE Malone
121. DT Uwazurike
135. CB Bryant
233. OT Stueber

New hyper-talented WR room, fresh bodies at D-Line, depth in the secondary and O-Line...let's go!
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The Franchise 12:44 PM 04-01-2022
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
13. WR Williams (#29 + #103 + x2 7th's)
30. WR Burks
50. WR Austin III
62. DE Williams
94. DE Malone
121. DT Uwazurike
135. CB Bryant
233. OT Stueber
You are not trading from #29 to #13 for a 3rd round comp pick and two 7th rounders.

Also three WRs with our first three picks is some borderline retarded shit.
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