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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>History repeating itself? The "Spanish flu" of 1918
RaidersOftheCellar 01:24 AM 09-10-2021
As the story goes, the Spanish flu was "an exceptionally deadly global influenza pandemic caused by the H1N1 influenza A virus." Almost a third of the global population had been infected in four successive waves. The estimated death total was between 50-100 million.

The truth is it wasn't a flu at all.

"Bacterial pneumonia was the killer in a minimum of 92.7% of the 1918-19 pandemic autopsies reviewed."

--National Institute of Health in 2008


The first cases trace back to the Flint Hills of Kansas in 1918. An experimental bacterial meningitis vaccine, cultured in horses by the Rockefeller Institute, was injected into soldiers at Fort Riley. Two million of these soldiers went overseas and fought under poor sanitary conditions and the bacteria spread like wildfire. It was reported that soldiers were going to come home with European diseases, so the American population was vaccinated also.

Only the vaccinated died. Those who refused the shots escaped the symptoms.

The parallels to today are many:

**Experimental vaccine
**False narratives/deceit
**Healthy young people dying in the prime of their lives
**Lockdowns, masks, social distancing

The main scientist in charge was Frederick Gates. The mass vaccination campaign was led by the Rockefeller Institute.

Today: Gates Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation have funded the blueprint for governments to implement a worldwide vaccine passport system (according to new WHO doc).


https://vaccineimpact.com/2018/did-m...s-spanish-flu/

http://whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=835RKHRBH33O
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Mephistopheles Janx 02:44 AM 09-10-2021
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2M62BG

Originally Posted by :
However, “there would be no way that a meningitis vaccine could contribute to starting a flu epidemic,” Dr Donald Burke, epidemiologist and former dean of the University of Pittsburgh Graduate School of Public Health ( here ), told Reuters via phone.

“Meningitis is a different disease, caused by a type of bacteria. It is not genetically or closely related to influenza”, Burke explained. “Influenza is a virus, a much smaller microbe than a bacteria; they are entirely different kinds of microorganisms that cause entirely different kinds of diseases.”
Wots the sauce for "only the vaccinated died"? Was it a Chiropractor who based his claims on the words of the anti-vaxxer Eleanor McBean who was not even remotely a physician?
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AdolfOliverBush 07:36 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
The truth is it wasn't a flu at all.

"Bacterial pneumonia was the killer in a minimum of 92.7% of the 1918-19 pandemic autopsies reviewed."

--National Institute of Health in 2008
Bacterial pneumonia, which was caused by the flu. Pneumonia is usually what kills people who have the flu, whether it's the Spanish Flu, or garden-variety influenza.
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Eleazar 07:46 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Bacterial pneumonia, which was caused by the flu. Pneumonia is usually what kills people who have the flu, whether it's the Spanish Flu, or garden-variety influenza.
amazing that some people still don’t know this
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Donger 07:48 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
As the story goes, the Spanish flu was "an exceptionally deadly global influenza pandemic caused by the H1N1 influenza A virus." Almost a third of the global population had been infected in four successive waves. The estimated death total was between 50-100 million.

The truth is it wasn't a flu at all.

"Bacterial pneumonia was the killer in a minimum of 92.7% of the 1918-19 pandemic autopsies reviewed."

--National Institute of Health in 2008


The first cases trace back to the Flint Hills of Kansas in 1918. An experimental bacterial meningitis vaccine, cultured in horses by the Rockefeller Institute, was injected into soldiers at Fort Riley. Two million of these soldiers went overseas and fought under poor sanitary conditions and the bacteria spread like wildfire. It was reported that soldiers were going to come home with European diseases, so the American population was vaccinated also.

Only the vaccinated died. Those who refused the shots escaped the symptoms.

The parallels to today are many:

**Experimental vaccine
**False narratives/deceit
**Healthy young people dying in the prime of their lives
**Lockdowns, masks, social distancing

The main scientist in charge was Frederick Gates. The mass vaccination campaign was led by the Rockefeller Institute.

Today: Gates Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation have funded the blueprint for governments to implement a worldwide vaccine passport system (according to new WHO doc).


https://vaccineimpact.com/2018/did-m...s-spanish-flu/

http://whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=835RKHRBH33O
OMG!!! Fake virus!!

Are you aware that for the vast majority of COVID-19 deaths, the immediate cause of death is not COVID-19?
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A Salt Weapon 07:53 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
OMG!!! Fake virus!!

Are you aware that for the vast majority of COVID-19 deaths, the immediate cause of death is not COVID-19?
Well yeah, I mean motorcycle crash, COD is Covid. Gunshot, another CoVId death. Etc etc
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AdolfOliverBush 08:04 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon:
Well yeah, I mean motorcycle crash, COD is Covid. Gunshot, another CoVId death. Etc etc
Conversely, if a person isn't in perfect health or over age 50, they can't possibly die from Covid because comorbidities.
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RaidersOftheCellar 08:43 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
OMG!!! Fake virus!!

Are you aware that for the vast majority of COVID-19 deaths, the immediate cause of death is not COVID-19?

Are the vast majority of Covid deaths caused by a bacteria?

Are you aware that influenza was a general term for "mysterious illness" back then?
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RaidersOftheCellar 08:45 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Bacterial pneumonia, which was caused by the flu. Pneumonia is usually what kills people who have the flu, whether it's the Spanish Flu, or garden-variety influenza.
So a virus spread bacteria?
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htismaqe 08:46 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Bacterial pneumonia, which was caused by the flu. Pneumonia is usually what kills people who have the flu, whether it's the Spanish Flu, or garden-variety influenza.
No virus causes bacterial pneumonia.
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tatorhog 08:46 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Conversely, if a person isn't in perfect health or over age 50, they can't possibly die from Covid because comorbidities.
My old man was 79 when he got it in Feb. He was sick for a week, then got down pretty bad. He has 1-1/2 lungs after dealing with lung cancer a few years back and if he hears the word pneumonia, he gets it. Mom feared he had pneumonia again, so she took him in to get checked. He apparently had covid instead. Gave him a round of remdesivir and then quit treatment because his O2 levels weren't low enough to justify using it. So they kept him only for observation until he got fed up and told them to let him out. He's fine and has since turned 80. He has a number of ailments aside from the lung cancer, so by the definitions given, he should have died but didn't.

A guy I work with, his parents are mid 70s and lost both due to complications from it, and I don't believe they had the same level of pre-existing issues. It hits everybody different, like anything else does. Granted those are examples of people over 70, but I think it still applies.

People survived the spanish flu, swine flu, the plague, and whatever else. We'll survive this too. I'm hard pressed to look around and see actual signs of a pandemic aside from occasional people wearing masks.
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AdolfOliverBush 08:48 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
So a virus spread bacteria?
The information you're looking for is not difficult to find.

https://www.cdc.gov/pneumonia/causes.html
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RaidersOftheCellar 09-10-2021, 08:48 AM
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htismaqe 08:50 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Are the vast majority of Covid deaths caused by a bacteria?

Are you aware that influenza was a general term for "mysterious illness" back then?
The word quite literally means ‘outbreak’ and was used to describe any number of diseases from the 16th century on. Before the 16th century it was used to describe things that were visited upon humanity by “the stars”. It was actually an astrological term.
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RaidersOftheCellar 08:50 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
The information you're looking for is not difficult to find.

https://www.cdc.gov/pneumonia/causes.html
I'm looking for confirmation that there is viral pneumonia and bacterial pneumonia?

Thanks?
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htismaqe 08:51 AM 09-10-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
The information you're looking for is not difficult to find.

https://www.cdc.gov/pneumonia/causes.html
A secondary infection is not caused by a primary infective agent.

You need to go back to school bud. Your logic, and your knowledge of biology, are flawed.
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