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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Mid to late RBs targets
kcbubb 04:10 PM 03-06-2022
I’ve got one late round back that I’m intrigued with so far, Tiyon Evans. I’d love to get him in the 7th. He’s 5’9” and 225 lbs and can fly. He needs to get a little momentum to get going but he’s got a crazy 2nd gear for his size. He’s built solid, shredded with a thick lower body. He’s more of a one cut runner but he can push the pile and lower his shoulder for contact. He transferred from TN and played for Louisville.



I thought this was interesting. Tiyon had one of the worst 10 yard splits at 1.61. Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan Robinson both had splits of 1.52 but his time from 10-40 was really good for that weight and size. Here’s a comparison for times from 10-40 and their 40 second and mph last.

Gibbs 2.84 4.36 22.8
Tiyon 2.91 4.52 21?
Bijan 2.94 4.46 21.6

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mf6uc892p7Y

#CFB's Top 5 Fastest Ball Carriers from Week 10

4️⃣ UL RB Tiyon Evans (@darealballer_15) 21.0 mph@LouisvilleFB | #GoCards pic.twitter.com/BJOIcUOtl3

— Reel Analytics (@RAanalytics) November 8, 2022


TIYON EVANS
COLLEGE Louisville

HEIGHT 5’ 9 1/2’’
WEIGHT 225 lbs
ARM 30 3/8’’
HAND 8 1/2’’

Combine Results
40-Yard Dash 4.52 Seconds
10-Yard Split 1.61 Seconds
Vertical Jump 30.5’’

2022

I like the bigger backs but these guys have some burst.

Dameon Pierce in the 4th

COLLEGE Florida

HEIGHT 5' 10"
WEIGHT 218 lbs
ARMS 30 3/4"

HANDS 9 3/8"

40 Yard Dash 4.59
Bench Press 21
Vertical Jump 34.5
Broad Jump119

Pierce play the game like a coiled spring ready to explode on each snap. He's an urgent runner with twitchy downfield burst, tackle-breaking leg drive and outstanding balance through contact. He reads and reacts to block development quickly and creates additional yardage with both power and subtle shiftiness. Pierce was highly productive (16 total touchdowns) in 2021 despite an embarrassingly low usage rate by the coaching staff. He has plenty of tread left on the tires and fits into any run-blocking scheme as a quality future starter or member of a RB tandem.

https://youtu.be/r18YtdttP2c

Brian Robinson in the 5th if we acquire one

COLLEGE Alabama

HEIGHT 6' 2"
WEIGHT 225 lbs
ARMS 31 7/8"
HANDS 9 3/4"

40 Yard Dash 4.53
Vertical Jump 30
Broad Jump 119

Robinson is an absolute physical unit with good feet and power to add yards after contact, but his running style is predictable and somewhat indecisive between the tackles. Building and maintaining momentum doesn't always come easily. He's more fight than flight, but delays in processing and a lack of second-level creativity turn him into more of a road-grader than he needs to be. He is a linear runner who is likely to be utilized as a complementary bulldozer to help wear down defenses, but Robinson might have more potential from sideline to sideline than he receives credit for.

https://youtu.be/iuHLDYw9WaY


Keaontay Ingram 6th or 7th

COLLEGE USC transfer from TX

HEIGHT 6' 0"
WEIGHT 221 lbs
ARMS 31 1/2"
HANDS 9"

40 Yard Dash 4.53
Vertical Jump 34.5
Broad Jump122

* Has the feet and feel running between the tackles and in the open field. He has very good vision and patience to pick through defenses.
* Doesn't possess elite breakaway speed, but is fast enough to gain yardage in chunks when he finds a seam.
* Difficult to bring down one-on-one in space, regularly sidesteps would-be tacklers and uses offhand to use oncoming defenders' momentum against them without slowing down significantly.
* Shows a surprising burst to beat linebackers to the edge. Can plant his foot in the ground and explode, showing better straight-line speed than expected.
* Demonstrated the ability to track the ball over his shoulder. Good flexibility and balance to adjust to the poorly thrown pass. Good vision and patience for screens.
* Possesses quick feet and straight-line speed but doesn't have the elite burst to be a constant big-play threat. Improving patience as a runner, following pulling guards and makes good decisions on his cut.
* Quick feet with good vision to pick through defenses. He has solid hands and body control and is a reliable receiver.
* Has good vision to find the hole and get North-South. Gets good initial push and always seems to be falling forward for a positive gain. A hard runner with a workhorse-type back mentality.

https://youtu.be/CCBVBnUCL2Q


Isaih Pacheco 6th or 7th

Rutgers

HEIGHT 5' 10"
WEIGHT 216 lbs
ARMS 30 1/2"
HANDS 9 1/4"

40 Yard Dash 4.37
Vertical Jump 33
Broad Jump118

Hard-charging, high-energy runner with three-down size and potential to compete for a roster spot as a late-round selection. Pacheco plays the game like a race car with no brakes. His feet never stop moving and his furious tempo creates opportunities but also limits his ability to set up defenders and force missed tackles. He processes the front fairly quickly and has the agility to re-adjust his running lanes to create something out of nothing, but he also has a tendency to bounce runs wide too frequently. Pacheco plays the game with an NFL demeanor and could give himself an even better chance of becoming an RB2/3 if he can step up his pass protection and third down value.

https://youtu.be/n1M6dhrTJd8

KEVIN HARRIS 6th or 7th
SOUTH CAROLINA
RB

HEIGHT 5' 10"
WEIGHT 221 lbs
ARMS 31 1/4"
HANDS 9 1/4"

Bench Press21
Vertical Jump38.5
Broad Jump126

Analysis

By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
NFL Comparison
Carlos Hyde
Overview
Big, bruising runner with good vision and the self-awareness to understand that power running is what will butter his bread. His 2021 productivity fell off from 2020, due in part to health issues, shared carries and average South Carolina run blocking. He creates for himself with contact and tackle-breaking talent, but typically drops and finishes against an open-field tackler rather than avoiding him. He's a chain mover with excellent ball security as a battering ram inside. He will be limited as an outside runner and needs to come off the field on passing downs. Harris has talent and his impressive 2020 was no mirage. He's a good Day 3 option for teams looking to upgrade their power.

https://youtu.be/4JHFK3byucE
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Chief Northman 02:07 PM 04-10-2023
Originally Posted by O.city:
If he's a Jamall Charles type player, ****, why not take him at 31.
Quite the projection.

I just do not think the snap shares makes sense for a guy like Gibbs at 31 when you have Pacheco and CEH and perhaps McKinnon competing for playtime..
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Dunerdr 02:13 PM 04-10-2023
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Quite the projection.

I just do not think the snap shares makes sense for a guy like Gibbs at 31 when you have Pacheco and CEH and perhaps McKinnon competing for playtime..
I dont think you let CEH whos in his last year or McKinnon who isnt on the roster affect your thought process here.
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kccrow 02:15 PM 04-10-2023
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Quite the projection.

I just do not think the snap shares makes sense for a guy like Gibbs at 31 when you have Pacheco and CEH and perhaps McKinnon competing for playtime..
McKinnon isn't re-signed yet so I don't see much reason to worry much about that dynamic. CEH is just not that great of a RB much less a good receiving back and Pacheco absolutely is not a good receiving back. I think snap share would actually go up over McKinnon and be a nice split with Pacheco.

We have a young WR corps and an aging TE that could start to decline as soon as this season. A quality check option is paramount. Not to mention McKinnon was 4th in yards, 3rd in receptions, and 2nd in TDs last year. It's a pretty big deal.
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Abba-Dabba 04:51 PM 04-10-2023
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Mims isn't fast or quick enough for his size for me.
:-)

Looks quick enough to me.
https://twitter.com/leaf_bryan/statu...797656064?s=20
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O.city 08:07 AM 04-11-2023
Originally Posted by kccrow:
McKinnon isn't re-signed yet so I don't see much reason to worry much about that dynamic. CEH is just not that great of a RB much less a good receiving back and Pacheco absolutely is not a good receiving back. I think snap share would actually go up over McKinnon and be a nice split with Pacheco.

We have a young WR corps and an aging TE that could start to decline as soon as this season. A quality check option is paramount. Not to mention McKinnon was 4th in yards, 3rd in receptions, and 2nd in TDs last year. It's a pretty big deal.
That's the thing, we're all talking about getting another WR to replace that.

Gibbs would come in and replace McKinnon and be....man....he'd be really good with this group.
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Bowser 12:05 PM 04-14-2023
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Wasn't sure where to plop this, but Joel Klatt making the case for Gibbs to KC...

Late to this party.

I like Gibbs, I like what is being said about him here......but isn't Klatt basically saying everything Gibbs COULD be in this offense, Pacheco already is? Pacheco came on as a pass catcher late in the season and into the postseason. Gibbs may have a more natural inclination for that, and could possibly run a better route tree than Isiah, but would Gibbs be a redundant pick for us right now?

I guess it comes down to who else is available and what are needs are, maybe? Can we agree Gibbs would be a luxury pick at this point, and would that pick supersede a receiver or tackle or d-lineman at 31 (if we even stay there)?
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Shoes 12:56 PM 04-14-2023
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Late to this party.

I like Gibbs, I like what is being said about him here......but isn't Klatt basically saying everything Gibbs COULD be in this offense, Pacheco already is? Pacheco came on as a pass catcher late in the season and into the postseason. Gibbs may have a more natural inclination for that, and could possibly run a better route tree than Isiah, but would Gibbs be a redundant pick for us right now?

I guess it comes down to who else is available and what are needs are, maybe? Can we agree Gibbs would be a luxury pick at this point, and would that pick supersede a receiver or tackle or d-lineman at 31 (if we even stay there)?
I don't think Gibbs would be redundant because the Chiefs showed last year that a tandem between Pacheco/McKinnon was effective. Gibbs would absorb most of McKinnon's roles with the main difference being that Gibbs isn't going to provide the same pass protection that Jet can. Gibbs I would argue is going to give you more splash plays and stresses the defense's ability to cover running backs even more.

It's somewhat of a luxury pick, I think it depends on how creative the Chiefs want to be in regards to addressing their lack of dynamic receiving options. Something I find interesting is that I think the Chiefs front office and Andy Reid really appreciate the ability to be versatile. Receivers who can play inside and outside, running backs who can do a little of everything. It gives the offense the ability to throw multiple looks and formations out of the same personnel groupings. Gibbs is the type of player that would add to that "amoeba" type of personnel.

Edit- Crow if you're reading this I'm still not a fan of Gibbs at 31.
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Mecca 12:58 PM 04-14-2023
Personally to me it's Abanikanda or McIntosh
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Abba-Dabba 11:04 AM 04-15-2023
Maybe I should stop watching this guy. I can feel a bias developing for a day 3 crush.

But damn, he made Bernard-Converse fall right out of his cleats.

Jordan Mims is ELECTRIC ⚡️ #ShrineBowl | #PFNShrine pic.twitter.com/5tYTj6j981

— Pro Football Network (@PFN365) February 3, 2023

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Couch-Potato 04:31 PM 04-16-2023
Chris Simms Top 5 RBs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBqYXGlhVC0

Tier 1
1. Bijan Robinson
2. Jamyr Gibbs

Tier 2
3. Roschon Johnson

Tier 3
4. Sean Tucker
5. Chase Brown
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kccrow 07:48 PM 04-16-2023
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Chris Simms Top 5 RBs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBqYXGlhVC0

Tier 1
1. Bijan Robinson
2. Jamyr Gibbs

Tier 2
3. Roschon Johnson

Tier 3
4. Sean Tucker
5. Chase Brown
He just always has to have a very controversial and very stupid one in the mix when he does these.

Roschon Johnson isn't in the top 10 RBs in this class, much less being the sole placeholder in Tier 2. Give me Charbonnet.
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kcbubb 09:07 PM 08-21-2023
Keaontay Ingram Looked good at the cards chiefs game. Prince hasn’t really shown much has he? Has Prince shown much?
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JPH83 11:33 PM 08-21-2023
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
Keaontay Ingram Looked good at the cards chiefs game. Prince hasn’t really shown much has he? Has Prince shown much?
Nope. Someone also got Keaton Mitchell as a UDFA too. I'm not convinced Veach pulled off another Pacheco but we'll see
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CatfishBob2 06:44 PM 08-22-2023
Originally Posted by JPH83:
Nope. Someone also got Keaton Mitchell as a UDFA too. I'm not convinced Veach pulled off another Pacheco but we'll see
Looked electric for the Ravens last night......a lot of late rd rbs out there that look like players. Hope Veach's strategy of investing next to nothing at rb continues to pan out
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JPH83 06:28 AM 08-23-2023
Originally Posted by CatfishBob2:
Looked electric for the Ravens last night......a lot of late rd rbs out there that look like players. Hope Veach's strategy of investing next to nothing at rb continues to pan out
There's always useful UDFA RBs, but there's also a giant slag-heap of mediocrity too. I'm way more comfortable with Veach going late than going in R1.
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