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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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The Franchise 11:01 AM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
More of a "No WR at 29/30" stance, then. I gotcha, and I get that.
I can see why they would take one and it wouldnít upset me if they did. I just donít see the value right now unless a guy like Olave falls. Burks I could probably get behind as well.

Ask me again when weíre a week out from the draft.
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BossChief 01:01 PM 03-30-2022
This was my attempt at factoring in positional depth of the draft and trying to maximize the value of each pick.

29.

Daxton Hill
S Michigan
KC
30.

Kaiir Elam
CB Florida
KC
50.

David Ojabo
EDGE Michigan
KC
62.

Skyy Moore
WR Western Michigan
KC
94.

Isaiah Thomas
EDGE Oklahoma
KC
103.

Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis
KC
121.

James Cook
RB Georgia
KC
135.

Troy Andersen
LB Montana State
KC
233.

Cordell Volson
OT North Dakota State
KC
243.

Jaylen Watson
CB Washington State
KC
251.

Thomas Booker
DT Stanford
KC
259.

Chance Campbell
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BossChief 01:16 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Here's my problem with PFN - Drake London falls to 29 about half the time.

There's no way he makes it to 29. On most boards, he's the top WR available. He's going to go top 15.
Originally Posted by BossChief:
You never know on this stuff. ďDraft boardsĒ get blown up every year. We talked about this before but thereís a definite possibility that he falls that far. He didnít run the 40 at the combine and still didnít at his pro day the other day. Thereís a perception that his time would be poor in both the 40 and 3 cone.

Itís nowhere near a lock he goes in the first, even if he falls to us.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Wait. You think that London could fall out of the first round completely?
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I think thereís a good chance that happens, yes.

How many WRs have been drafted in the first round that run a 40 in what many think would be 4.6-4.7 and a well below average 3-cone?

Not many that didnít end up total bustsÖa few of those busts came from USC, too.

Him not running the critical tests in the pre draft process is a HUGE red flag. Half the linebackers in the NFL are legit faster than him.
Hereís the write up from Pests thread about WRs on London, it goes into detail about what I was talking about a couple days agoÖIím glad Iím not alone:

Iíve watched almost every game of Londonís 2021 season. My opinion on him has elevated from early in draft season, when I was sure Iíd be the lowest analyst on him. Londonís college tape is good, but I have some questions about how heíll win in the NFL. Jump ball receivers have rarely become quality No. 1 options in the league, and London has been considered a top 10-15 pick throughout the draft process. Rarely are receivers with his size and lack of speed top options for an NFL teamís passing attack in the NFL.

But what London lacks in speed and quickness, he does his best to make up for with terrific execution. Although his route tree could be more expansive, London is great at dropping his hips at the top of the route and exploding back to the ball. Technically, heís a very clean receiver. Heís fantastic at playing the football in the air, he doesnít give up his hands early and he finds space against zone coverage like a pro. All of those things will allow London to play early and often in the NFL.

So whatís the ceiling? I think people need to stop with the Mike Evansí comparison. Evans had 10-15 pounds on London and was much faster. He ran by guys in college, and heís done the same thing his entire pro career. Londonís lack of speed will be an issue in the NFL. You canít back-shoulder catch all game long against every corner at the pro level.

Still, Londonís physicality and awareness make him hard to completely bet against. His game will need to be grimy at the next level, and I think heíll embrace that. Londonís ability to play as a power slot possession receiver could make him a fun mis-match option in the right offense. And heís tough enough after the catch to wear a few different hats in the NFL too. Londonís limitations will show up more in the NFL, but not to the point where he canít help an offense with some good pieces around him.
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Titty Meat 01:23 PM 03-30-2022
If Obajo & Jameson are there at 29 & 30 would you take both?
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DJ's left nut 01:32 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
If Obajo & Jameson are there at 29 & 30 would you take both?
Yup. Wouldn't blink.
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staylor26 01:32 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yup. Wouldn't blink.
Wow, I thought I was crazy for being willing to do this.

Good to see we’re on the same page there.
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staylor26 01:36 PM 03-30-2022
That kind of goes with the zag when they zig philosophy we’ve been talking about.

If those two make it there, it’s simply because everybody in front of us was looking for an immediate impact.

Ok, thanks rest of the NFL!

You’ve now allowed us to continue playing the longer game here and get two top 15-20 talents at 29/30.

And we still have 4 more picks in rounds 2-4.

Thanks guys!
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The Franchise 02:25 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
If Obajo & Jameson are there at 29 & 30 would you take both?
For sure. And that's coming from someone who isn't a huge fan of Williams.

Getting him at 29 is fine. Trading up for him is stupid.
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htismaqe 02:28 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
For sure. And that's coming from someone who isn't a huge fan of Williams.

Getting him at 29 is fine. Trading up for him is stupid.
Right there with you. :-)
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BossChief 04:34 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
If Obajo & Jameson are there at 29 & 30 would you take both?
I was actually going to start a thread asking this question day before yesterday, but deleted it before posting it.

Both firsts on a possible red shirt isn’t ideal, but 4 additional years being cost controlled for possible blue chip talents would be too much value for me to pass on for short term gains.

It would take a huge offer for me to take a trade down.
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BossChief 04:39 PM 03-30-2022
29. Jermaine Johnson EDGE Florida State
30. David Ojabo EDGE Michigan
50. Tariq Woolen CB UTSA
62. Skyy Moore WR Western Michigan
94. Calvin Austin III WR Memphis
103. James Cook RB Georgia
121. Isaiah Thomas EDGE Oklahoma
135. Troy Andersen LB Montana State
233. Josh Blackwell CB Duke
243. Tycen Anderson S Toledo
251. Dylan Parham OG Memphis
259. D'Marco Jackson
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kcbubb 04:56 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
You'll never get through to him.

I commented yesterday about it but notice that Bubb always talks about the WR's as "London, Olave, Dotson, Watson, and JAMESON".

It's obviously a draft crush thing because it's the only WR he consistently calls by his first name while all others are by last name. It's personal for him.
I called him jameson bc Williams is a common last name. Lol. It’s definitely not personal. I just see him as good fit and mahomes likes wrs that create separation. Watson is growing on me after watching the senior bowl video of him. The reason I’ve wanted to trade up is bc I’m not as excited about many of the other wrs y’all have pointed out in round 2. If burks, olave or Wilson are available, I’d be happy with them also. I’m don’t like Pickens at all. Dotson, Moore, bell, metchie, Tolbert…. None of these guys excite me at all as a WR1.

I guess I’d be ok with Watson at 30 based on his high ceiling. But I feel like Watson has some risk that jameson, Wilson and burks don’t have. The production at a high level and separation that I’m looking for is there with those 3.
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Chieftain 05:09 PM 03-30-2022
Watson with the Dolphins 2nd pick would be excellent value. The more I think about this, I see Bert use both firsts on edges. Imagine a scenario of getting borth Ojabo and Mafe in the first. Damn that would be something.
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kcbubb 05:11 PM 03-30-2022
I wonder if Watson will make it to 50?
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BossChief 05:29 PM 03-30-2022
Originally Posted by Chieftain:
Watson with the Dolphins 2nd pick would be excellent value. The more I think about this, I see Bert use both firsts on edges. Imagine a scenario of getting borth Ojabo and Mafe in the first. Damn that would be something.
Itís a very realistic scenario.

Also, if that happens and Jones, Perrion or Wyatt are on the board, Iíd be ok trading up to get one of them. If 2 or more of them are on the board, thereís no rush. We really do need to land one of them, though.

I still think Saunders snd Wharton are going to be good players at the position and one of them may surprise us, but Iíd like options at the position.
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