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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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RunKC 08:33 AM 03-21-2022
Not sure about rd 3 but Iíd be happy with Boye Mafe and Tariq Woolwn with our first 2 picks

Arms length is the only thing I see as a negative with Mafe
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Chris Meck 08:38 AM 03-21-2022
More and more, I've been looking at blue chippers early; but going for freak athletes from small schools late.

I would think you can coach up elite athleticism, and the small school guys are going to be HUNGRY for success.

guys from SEC schools and whatnot....maybe not so much.
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DJ's left nut 08:40 AM 03-21-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Latest PFF Mock Draft

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-post-...ew-york-giants

30. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: CB KAIIR ELAM, FLORIDA

Elam is the dream scenario for the Chiefs after losing Charvarius Ward in free agency. The man is built to play press coverage and the Chiefs played more of that than any team in the NFL last season.

62. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: EDGE KINGSLEY ENAGBARE, SOUTH CAROLINA

94. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: WR ALEC PIERCE, CINCINNATI

103. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: WR CALVIN AUSTIN III, MEMPHIS

I would probably take Cameron Thomas in the 2nd instead of Enagbare….but fuck if that WR group of Hill, JuJu, Pierce, Hardman and Austin wouldn’t be straight fucking fire.
Look at you just straight stealing my shit at this point.

Poor form, man.

EDIT: Hell, you even did a lousy job of it.

Elam and Enagbare over Travis Jones and Sam Williams?

Pft.
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staylor26 08:49 AM 03-21-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Not sure about rd 3 but Iíd be happy with Boye Mafe and Tariq Woolwn with our first 2 picks

Arms length is the only thing I see as a negative with Mafe
Thereís also the fact that Mafe will turn 24 before the season even starts.

But heís a guy that I think has a very good shot of being the pick at 30.
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kccrow 08:50 AM 03-21-2022
Today's PFN mock. Made a trade in the 7th but otherwise stood pat. I'd be jizzin

30. Jermaine Johnson EDGE Florida State
62. Cameron Thomas EDGE San Diego State
94. Erik Ezukanma WR Texas Tech
103. Nick Cross S Maryland
135. Pierre Strong Jr. RB South Dakota State
233. Danny Gray WR SMU
239. Eyioma Uwazurike DT Iowa State trade icon
252. Chris Steele CB USC trade icon
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kccrow 08:54 AM 03-21-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
There’s also the fact that Mafe will turn 24 before the season even starts.

But he’s a guy that I think has a very good shot of being the pick at 30.
I agree he has a good shot. He has the strength at the point to play now. That's also one thing I like about Cam Thomas, he's strong enough right now to be a difference-maker and he has a great first 5-10 yard burst. Guys like Drake Jackson, I worry about the strength and taking a couple years to be anything.

I'm not too sure I'm overly worried about the age. A 1st, you can have 5 years and sign him to a popular 3-4 year extension and move along.
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staylor26 08:55 AM 03-21-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I agree he has a good shot. He has the strength at the point to play now. That's also one thing I like about Cam Thomas, he's strong enough right now to be a difference-maker and he has a great first 5-10 yard burst. Guys like Drake Jackson, I worry about the strength and taking a couple years to be anything.

I'm not too sure I'm overly worried about the age. A 1st, you can have 5 years and sign him to a popular 3-4 year extension and move along.
Agreed. I don’t think Mafe gets enough attention on here as a possible pick at 30.
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RunKC 09:00 AM 03-21-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Thereís also the fact that Mafe will turn 24 before the season even starts.

But heís a guy that I think has a very good shot of being the pick at 30.
I think that will make him fall. Age + less than ideal arm length. But thatís actually a plus for us. You really donít expect more than 5 quality years out of your first rd picks on average
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The Franchise 09:03 AM 03-21-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Look at you just straight stealing my shit at this point.

Poor form, man.

EDIT: Hell, you even did a lousy job of it.

Elam and Enagbare over Travis Jones and Sam Williams?

Pft.
I didnít even look and see Sam Williams. The reason I posted it was BECAUSE OF YOU. :-)
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DJ's left nut 09:08 AM 03-21-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I agree he has a good shot. He has the strength at the point to play now. That's also one thing I like about Cam Thomas, he's strong enough right now to be a difference-maker and he has a great first 5-10 yard burst. Guys like Drake Jackson, I worry about the strength and taking a couple years to be anything.

I'm not too sure I'm overly worried about the age. A 1st, you can have 5 years and sign him to a popular 3-4 year extension and move along.
It's less about where you end up in 5 years, but rather what it means for his ceiling and his aging curve.

He's been a lot closer to his physical prime than the guys he's been playing with the last couple of years. And he still hasn't been exceptionally productive over that period.

It's like those prospects in MLB that lie about their age and suddenly you have a guy in AAA who's putting up numbers at 24 you thought you were getting at 21. That player isn't significantly devalued because of his long-term prospects but rather that it changes how impressive his performance was as he was competing against guys far younger than him.

It impacts his ceiling quite a bit.
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Chris Meck 05:53 PM 03-21-2022
Interesting draft.

KC
30.
Perrion Winfrey
DT Oklahoma-pretty much a Chris Jones clone. Allows you to move on from Jones' contract next year if you want; gives your nickel and dime defenses an unstoppable force with the duo on passing downs.

KC
62.
Christian Watson
WR North Dakota State-THE physical freak of the draft as far as I'm concerned. I didn't wanna, but I couldn't pass him up.

KC
94.
Kingsley Enagbare
EDGE South Carolina-steady edge rusher here

KC
103.
Jalyn Armour-Davis
CB Alabama-best value player at a position of need here

KC
135.
Pierre Strong Jr.
RB South Dakota State-hot, disgusting nasty speed for you guys.

KC
233.
Bo Melton
WR Rutgers-more hot, disgusting nasty speed for you guys.

KC
243.
Tycen Anderson
S Toledo-and yet MORE hot, nasty speed. See a pattern? Let's get so fast nobody knows what to do about it.

KC
251.
Tayland Humphrey
DT Louisiana-a great big lump of dude to plop down in the middle in goal line and short yardage situations. He's 350 pounds of "sorry, you'll have to go way around".

KC
259.
Chris Steele
CB USC-superior athletic ability. High ceiling, low floor guy. Fuck it! It's the 7th round!
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duncan_idaho 06:10 PM 03-21-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Interesting draft.

KC
30.
Perrion Winfrey
DT Oklahoma-pretty much a Chris Jones clone. Allows you to move on from Jones' contract next year if you want; gives your nickel and dime defenses an unstoppable force with the duo on passing downs.

KC
62.
Christian Watson
WR North Dakota State-THE physical freak of the draft as far as I'm concerned. I didn't wanna, but I couldn't pass him up.

KC
94.
Kingsley Enagbare
EDGE South Carolina-steady edge rusher here

KC
103.
Jalyn Armour-Davis
CB Alabama-best value player at a position of need here

KC
135.
Pierre Strong Jr.
RB South Dakota State-hot, disgusting nasty speed for you guys.

KC
233.
Bo Melton
WR Rutgers-more hot, disgusting nasty speed for you guys.

KC
243.
Tycen Anderson
S Toledo-and yet MORE hot, nasty speed. See a pattern? Let's get so fast nobody knows what to do about it.

KC
251.
Tayland Humphrey
DT Louisiana-a great big lump of dude to plop down in the middle in goal line and short yardage situations. He's 350 pounds of "sorry, you'll have to go way around".

KC
259.
Chris Steele
CB USC-superior athletic ability. High ceiling, low floor guy. **** it! It's the 7th round!
I love this look, man. I am not 100 percent on-board with Perrion Winfrey being the best value at 30, but I do like the idea of gaining some flexibility should they need to move on from Chris Jones after this season.
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RunKC 07:23 PM 03-21-2022
The DT argument is really interesting.

Wyatt has the best straight line athleticism, but has tiny arms. His 10 yrs split is 1.66!
Winfrey is just barely behind Wyatt with a 10 yard split of 1.68 but his arms are over 35 inches!
Jones straight line speed is slower in comparison but his 7.33 3 come at his size is amazing.

Iím really not sure what we do but I feel like with Wharton we have a super athletic DT as a secondary option with Jones on the payroll in 2023 but we desperately need a DE in the worst way.
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RunKC 07:33 PM 03-21-2022
I put a lot of stock into Nate Taylor’s reports. The most recent one said he thinks Veach will trade up for a DL.

I have to think that would be Boye Mafe or George Karlaftis
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staylor26 08:19 PM 03-21-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I put a lot of stock into Nate Taylorís reports. The most recent one said he thinks Veach will trade up for a DL.

I have to think that would be Boye Mafe or George Karlaftis
I donít think they need to trade up for Mafe.

I could see Karlaftis though.

Iíd probably prefer to just stay at 30 and take Ojabo though.
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