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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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petegz28 04:32 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
You need to be banned from this thread.
And here comes a classic Dane tantrum....
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penguinz 04:34 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
You show us what he is basing his numbers on....otherwise I say he is full of shit
Because you would be able to understand the numbers. :-)
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ShowtimeSBMVP 04:36 PM 03-19-2020

Second dog in Hong Kong tests positive for #Coronavirus indicating human to dog transmission. No data yet showing dogs can infect humans, only time will tell. #dogs #Covid_19

— Nicole Saphier, MD (@NBSaphierMD) March 19, 2020

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Kiimo 04:36 PM 03-19-2020
You gotta love it when random internet posters disbelieve people who are spending all their time with the best information and knowledge and go don't listen to this liar here's the TRUTH if you're ready for it because I know someone who is a doctor or whatever.

Now the same people who said businesses would NEVER shut down at the beginning of this thread are either arming themselves and preparing for Tom Clancy's The Division or completely disregarding every piece of information from a reputable source because they don't want to believe what it means.
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DaneMcCloud 04:37 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
And here comes a classic Dane tantrum....
Wrong again, pete.
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jjjayb 04:37 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
You need to be banned from this thread.
It's a valid question. That's a pretty big number to throw out there.
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Bwana 04:39 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Almost half of coronavirus patients have digestive symptoms, study finds

By Robert Preidt

March 19, 2020 / 4:40 PM / HealthDay

Diarrhea and other digestive symptoms are the main complaint in nearly half of coronavirus patients, Chinese researchers report. Most patients with the coronavirus have respiratory symptoms, but these findings from the early stages of the outbreak show that digestive problems are prevalent in many patients with COVID-19.

"Clinicians must bear in mind that digestive symptoms, such as diarrhea, may be a presenting feature of COVID-19, and that the index of suspicion may need to be raised earlier in these cases rather than waiting for respiratory symptoms to emerge," wrote the investigators from the Wuhan Medical Treatment Expert Group for COVID-19.

The researchers analyzed data from 204 COVID-19 patients, average age nearly 55, who were admitted to three hospitals in the Hubei province between Jan. 18 and Feb. 28, 2020. The average time from symptom onset to hospital admission was 8.1 days.

However, the finding showed that patients with digestive symptoms had a longer time from symptom onset to hospital admission than patients without digestive symptoms, 9 days versus 7.3 days.

This suggests that patients with digestive symptoms sought care later because they didn't yet suspect they had COVID-19 due to a lack of respiratory symptoms, such as cough or shortness of breath, the researchers explained.

Patients with digestive symptoms had a variety of problems, including loss of appetite (nearly 84%), diarrhea (29%), vomiting (0.8%) and abdominal pain (0.4%).

Seven of the patients in the study had digestive symptoms but no respiratory symptoms.

As the severity of the disease increased, digestive symptoms became more serious, the researchers found.

Patients without digestive symptoms were more likely to be cured and discharged than those with digestive symptoms (60% versus 34%), according to the study published March 18 in the American Journal of Gastroenterology.
MORE TP!!
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DaneMcCloud 04:39 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by jjjayb:
It's a valid question. That's a pretty big number to throw out there.
This article isn't behind a paywall

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...id-coronavirus

SACRAMENTO — Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday asked Congress for $1 billion in federal funds to support the state’s medical response to the novel coronavirus, which he expects will infect more than half of all Californians.

The state projects that 25.5 million people in California will be infected with the coronavirus over an eight-week period, Newsom said in a letter sent to President Trump on Wednesday requesting the deployment of the USNS Mercy Hospital Ship to the port of Los Angeles through Sept. 1.
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wazu 04:40 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP:
We’d better euthanize all dogs just to be safe. #FlattenTheCurve
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R Clark 04:41 PM 03-19-2020
Damn I feel sorry for them poor damn dogs, it’s some nasty shit . I’ve got a dog that eats the ass end out of skunks and everything dead you can imagine, all that happens to that bitch is she pukes then eats it again. If this shit can make her sick human race ain’t got a chance
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jd1020 04:42 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I'm also curious what the mortality timelines are.

Does it appear that the people who are popping positive then dying are dying within 72 hours or are they limping along for 6-8 days before dying?

If it's the former, the death rate is unlikely to spike in any meaningful way - they're already baked into the pie so to speak. If it's the latter, it'll probably continue to decline a bit as the denominator gets bigger before the deaths start to result, but then we'll see an inexorable climb towards those spooky 7-8% mortality rates that have people so fearful of the Italy situation.
Not sure what the norm is, but a lady who was one of the first positive tests in my city just died today. She was 71 and tested positive Monday.
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petegz28 04:43 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
This article isn't behind a paywall

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...id-coronavirus

SACRAMENTO — Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday asked Congress for $1 billion in federal funds to support the state’s medical response to the novel coronavirus, which he expects will infect more than half of all Californians.

The state projects that 25.5 million people in California will be infected with the coronavirus over an eight-week period, Newsom said in a letter sent to President Trump on Wednesday requesting the deployment of the USNS Mercy Hospital Ship to the port of Los Angeles through Sept. 1.
The article does not state how he came to that number.
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Monticore 04:43 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by wazu:
We’d better euthanize all dogs just to be safe. #FlattenTheCurve
Why can’t we just eat them.
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Frazod 04:43 PM 03-19-2020
Originally Posted by Bwana:
MORE TP!!
Just changed out the roll in my bathroom today. Even though I've got plenty, I still kind of felt like Lord Humongous from Road Warrior loading the last of the bullets into his revolver. :-)
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Donger 04:44 PM 03-19-2020
Newsom's letter:

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/up...pital-Ship.pdf
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