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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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Donger 01:56 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Public Health Policy as Police State Works /?donger]:-)
Just common sense and logic. So it's not surprising that you don't accept it.
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BucEyedPea 02:16 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
:-)

You're buying the takes of the same people who've been overselling the Wu Flu, when there's been proof and admissions (from the CDC among others) regarding the "errors" of that overselling, and you're calling others conspiracy theorists.
On a related note, the claimed reason by FB's fact-checkers on deplatforming RFK from Instagram was that he was disseminating misinformation about these experimental vaccines, that is he was reporting on the injuries and deaths— when HE WAS USING THE CDCsOWN NUMBERS!!!

His wiki page is undergoing an edit war currently too.

These so-called fact-checkers aren't expert scientists or doctors either. Nor is college drop-out Bill Gates. Yet, govts listen to him for their public health policies which harm more broadly.
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Just Passin' By 02:21 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
On a related note, the claimed reason by FB's fact-checkers on deplatforming RFK from Instagram was that he was disseminating misinformation about these experimental vaccines, that is he was reporting on the injuries and deaths— when HE WAS USING THE CDCsOWN NUMBERS!!!

His wiki page is undergoing an edit war currently too.

These so-called fact-checkers aren't expert scientists or doctors either. Nor is college drop-out Bill Gates. Yet, govts listen to him for their public health policies which harm more broadly.
There is no question that, when you use fact checkers as your source of response, you are being lazy and often passing on false or misleading information. Whether it's Snopes, or Politifact, or most of the others, they aren't actually fact checkers. They are opinion pushers, and their "analysis" usually makes that obvious.
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Donger 02:23 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
There is no question that, when you use fact checkers as your source of response, you are being lazy and often passing on false or misleading information.
You just posted a tweet which claimed that Fauci said that the stimulus was required to pass before schools reopen...

Irony much?
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GloryDayz 02:55 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Less than a thousand reported cases of flu this winter as compared to 38 million last winter. Covid has cured the flu. Facts.
Did those numbers get verified and corrected as needed by Cuomo's group/staff?
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Ninerfan11 03:17 PM 02-15-2021
FOR SCIENCE, SPONSORED BY...............

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— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) :-)?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2021

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Bowser 04:09 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Great, isn't it? Guess masks work after all...
Seasonal flu is down due to people wearing masks and social distancing

-BUT-

The Chinese Flu is rampant and out of control because people won't wear masks and socially distance.



Which one are we going with, here?
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Donger 04:11 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Seasonal flu is down due to people wearing masks and social distancing

-BUT-

The Chinese Flu is rampant and out of control because people won't wear masks and socially distance.



Which one are we going with, here?
Both, although the latter isn't accurate. Cases are coming down, and mask usage is up to almost 80%
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Bowser 04:15 PM 02-15-2021
It can't be both, particularly with the reports coming out of California and Florida. If masks work for the flu, then great. If masks don't work for the WuFlu, then lets take them off because it's not working (and while we're at it, let's open everything up again and get the goddamned economy rolling once more).

What am I missing?
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Donger 04:21 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
It can't be both, particularly with the reports coming out of California and Florida. If masks work for the flu, then great. If masks don't work for the WuFlu, then lets take them off because it's not working (and while we're at it, let's open everything up again and get the goddamned economy rolling once more).

What am I missing?
You're missing that COVID-19 has been transmitting in large numbers for months. I remember either Fauci or Birx saying back in March that once COVID-19 got spread around enough and had a lung-hold, it was too late and it became a minimization effort.

With the mask wearing and other mitigation efforts, seasonal influenza hasn't had a chance to get started and spread.

Masks work for both. They just aren't 100%
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Bowser 04:27 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
You're missing that COVID-19 has been transmitting in large numbers for months. I remember either Fauci or Birx saying back in March that once COVID-19 got spread around enough and had a lung-hold, it was too late and it became a minimization effort.

With the mask wearing and other mitigation efforts, seasonal influenza hasn't had a chance to get started and spread.
You'll forgive me if I strongly question seasonal flu going from tens of millions of cases to under a thousand in the span of a year, especially due to masks. If masks were such a powerful flu deterrent, we'd all have been wearing them every flu season for years on end. Hell, they'd teach the kids in elementary to wear their masks every winter if that were the case. I'd be willing to listen to how everything being shut down and nobody getting out can bring the flu down, but I just can't get there with the mask explanation.
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Donger 04:36 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
You'll forgive me if I strongly question seasonal flu going from tens of millions of cases to under a thousand in the span of a year, especially due to masks. If masks were such a powerful flu deterrent, we'd all have been wearing them every flu season for years on end. Hell, they'd teach the kids in elementary to wear their masks every winter if that were the case. I'd be willing to listen to how everything being shut down and nobody getting out can bring the flu down, but I just can't get there with the mask explanation.
It's not just masks. It's all the mitigation efforts.

Seasonal influenza isn't as deadly as COVID-19, so we don't take mitigation efforts.

Why do you think seasonal influenza cases are less than a thousand this year instead of millions?
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Bowser 04:38 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
It's not just masks. It's all the mitigation efforts.

Seasonal influenza isn't as deadly as COVID-19, so we don't take mitigation efforts.

Why do you think seasonal influenza cases are less than a thousand this year instead of millions?
They're pumping up the Covid numbers, you nit!
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Donger 04:43 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
They're pumping up the Covid numbers, you nit!
I don't know what that means.

But I don't think it answers why flu is basically non-existent right now.
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ClevelandBronco 04:53 PM 02-15-2021
Still no.
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