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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Sassy Squatch 12:42 PM 06-30-2022
Sooo, assuming we end at 20 a piece with each conference, what are the most valuable schools left?

Assuming SEC goes for at least FSU and Clemson. Perhaps UNC.

BIG 10 probably goes for Oregon as well and perhaps KU for the basketball prestige. Also making a huge run at ND assumedly.
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Titty Meat 12:43 PM 06-30-2022
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
As a Jayhawk living in Los Angeles I would gladly join the Big 10 and then take a trip to see UCLA slaughter KU in Lawrence with Bruin friends.

Half kidding but also seriously that would be amazing.

Also KU basketball in Los Angeles twice a season minimum sounds equally fun.
We don't want your whiney ass fan base
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Rams Fan 12:46 PM 06-30-2022
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
2 massive super conferences on the way. Leftover B12 and P12 schools will likely have to band together to stay even close.
No, Coach said Big 12 wasn’t going to dissolve.

:-)
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lawrenceRaider 12:53 PM 06-30-2022
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
No, Coach said Big 12 wasn’t going to dissolve.

:-)
Rams Fan said Kentucky wouldn't lose to a 15 seed and KU had no chance at winning a championship.

Laugh if/when the B12 is gone.
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Kiimo 12:54 PM 06-30-2022
I'm getting my hopes up just to get crushed when KU makes some kind of idiotic "commitment" to sticking around the Big 12 and propping up the likes of Iowa State and K-State, both of which hate our guts either way. Fuck em
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Kiimo 12:56 PM 06-30-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
We don't want your whiney ass fan base
I don't know who your team is but lmao at any fanbase in the world calling another one "whiny" look in the mirror.
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Sassy Squatch 12:57 PM 06-30-2022
Could see it ending up like this if each goes for 4 more schools

BIG 10
Oregon
Washington
UNC
Duke

SEC
FSU
Clemson
Miami
Kansas
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Kiimo 12:59 PM 06-30-2022
Well that's the first time I've seen anyone predict KU to the SEC but would welcome the opportunity to continue beating Texas in football
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Sassy Squatch 01:02 PM 06-30-2022
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
Well that's the first time I've seen anyone predict KU to the SEC but would welcome the opportunity to continue beating Texas in football
Don't understand why. It really wouldn't be that odd.
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Hoover 01:03 PM 06-30-2022
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
The travel for the non FB sports will be brutal

If there were any holdouts left who oppose players being paid on the grounds it’s “amateur sports”, they should see themselves to the door

I think they end up adding a couple more out west like Stanford and Cal
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Kiimo 01:04 PM 06-30-2022
Missouri would be like we're getting our rival back! Only to have KU's rival instantly be Kentucky instead
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Sassy Squatch 01:05 PM 06-30-2022
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
That ACC GOR goes through 2036 or some such shit. That would a bit costly
I mean, if the numbers floating around are anywhere close to accurate a 52 million buyout for 30+ million more in revenue per year seems like a bit of a no brainer.
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Hoover 01:05 PM 06-30-2022
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Could see it ending up like this if each goes for 4 more schools

BIG 10
Oregon
Washington
UNC
Duke

SEC
FSU
Clemson
Miami
Kansas
No

Big 10
UNC
Notre Dame
Cal
Stanford

I think SEC is FSU, Clemson, Miami, and someone else. I think Kansas ends up in a new PAC 12.
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Sassy Squatch 01:07 PM 06-30-2022
Oregon and Washington add way more in the way of football revenue and both are AAU. If ND is willing to join then of course they're in, but I think they'll be stubborn enough to remain independent.
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Rams Fan 01:07 PM 06-30-2022
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Rams Fan said Kentucky wouldn't lose to a 15 seed and KU had no chance at winning a championship.

Laugh if/when the B12 is gone.
Remember when Kansas had the worst home loss in the Self era to Kentucky in January? Because I do.

Also, it’s football season.
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