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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Rickey says it’s LT
Mecca 09:02 AM 04-25-2024
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I agree with Chiefs want a LT in RD 1 and DAL wants RB Brooks in R2, but everyone knows that already.

Why would Mitchel be coming off teams boards? ...that statement requires explanation.
I know people who do ratings off of analytics hate Mitchell, but that shouldn't remove him from boards.
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louie aguiar 05:47 PM 04-24-2024
Any thoughts on Roger Rosengarten? Matt Derrick was on the radio this morning and mentioned that he thinks RR could be in play at 32 or with a trade down in the second. He said that he likes him better than Kingsley. Seems like it would be a reach to me but I don’t know much about him.
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Couch-Potato 06:26 PM 04-24-2024
It's for sure OT in my mind.
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RedinTexas 09:52 PM 04-24-2024
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
It's for sure OT in my mind.
I've made my final decision and I agree. It has to be OT. This team is a dynasty that runs on Patrick Mahomes. As much as I've wanted to believe that Patrick could compensate for some OL problems, we just can't afford to risk the one unquestionable thing that makes the Chiefs great. We have to draft OT first. This seems like such a no-brainer that I don't understand why I didn't see it this way before. OT first and let the rest of the chips fall where they may.
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Dunerdr 07:40 PM 04-24-2024
Give me a lt prospect in round 1 and Ricky pearsall and I’ll blow my load.
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staylor26 10:07 PM 04-24-2024
If he knows it's a LT, it's because they know they're going up to get their guy.

Teams who I could see movin’ on up tomorrow (check back for accuracy after the fact):

Vikings, Broncos, Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Jaguars, Colts, Patriots (back into end of first round for a WR), Bills, Texans

— Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) April 25, 2024

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Dante84 11:57 PM 04-24-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
If he knows it's a LT, it's because they know they're going up to get their guy.

There’s no way we’d be bold enough to go get John Alt’s son at #7, right? Clark giving Veach the green light for nostalgia reasons?

That cost would be so, so much.
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ChiefsFanatic 06:53 AM 04-28-2024
Originally Posted by Dante84:
There’s no way we’d be bold enough to go get John Alt’s son at #7, right? Clark giving Veach the green light for nostalgia reasons?



That cost would be so, so much.
I know it's after the fact now, but even if we gave up two first rounders to get Alt, so what?

We pick between 30-32 almost every year. Those are not first round draft picks. Those are Round 1.5 draft picks at best, AT BEST.

In fact, we don't even care if those picks are productive, as I site the fuck nothing that FAU did this year.

So, why would we care about drafting day 2 guys on day one? Alt, or MHJ, will absolutely, ABSOLUTELY will absolutely be better than the 32nd pick this year and anyone between 30th -32nd next year.

MHJ will be better than Worthy plus whoever we draft in the first next year.

Or the next 3 years for that matter.

Players win on the field. When we are down 10 points in SB 59, the players will win the game, not the future draft capital of 2025, 2026, or 2027.
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Chris Meck 07:46 AM 04-28-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I know it's after the fact now, but even if we gave up two first rounders to get Alt, so what?

We pick between 30-32 almost every year. Those are not first round draft picks. Those are Round 1.5 draft picks at best, AT BEST.

In fact, we don't even care if those picks are productive, as I site the **** nothing that FAU did this year.

So, why would we care about drafting day 2 guys on day one? Alt, or MHJ, will absolutely, ABSOLUTELY will absolutely be better than the 32nd pick this year and anyone between 30th -32nd next year.

MHJ will be better than Worthy plus whoever we draft in the first next year.

Or the next 3 years for that matter.

Players win on the field. When we are down 10 points in SB 59, the players will win the game, not the future draft capital of 2025, 2026, or 2027.
Because best 52+Mahomes wins Super Bowls. Every year now, we'll be losing good players that we can't afford to pay. Every draft, we need to be stacking good football players. They don't have to be elite, just good. And we need multiple guys every year.
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gordonelloyd 08:17 AM 04-28-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I know it's after the fact now, but even if we gave up two first rounders to get Alt, so what?

We pick between 30-32 almost every year. Those are not first round draft picks. Those are Round 1.5 draft picks at best, AT BEST.

In fact, we don't even care if those picks are productive, as I site the **** nothing that FAU did this year.

So, why would we care about drafting day 2 guys on day one? Alt, or MHJ, will absolutely, ABSOLUTELY will absolutely be better than the 32nd pick this year and anyone between 30th -32nd next year.

MHJ will be better than Worthy plus whoever we draft in the first next year.

Or the next 3 years for that matter.

Players win on the field. When we are down 10 points in SB 59, the players will win the game, not the future draft capital of 2025, 2026, or 2027.
It would be great if we could get some rumours or inside information on what we offered to trade up. I’m sure Veach tried. But there’s no way we would’ve gotten Alt for two of our number one draft picks. Apparently New England turned down three number one draft picks from Minnesota. And like you say our number one draft picks are pretty much number two draft picks so I’m not even sure three of our number one draft picks would’ve Gor Alt. And I would not be willing to pay that much.

And while the jury is still out on FAU, not all of our number one draft picks have been that questionable.
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DJ's left nut 10:28 PM 04-24-2024
I think there's a pretty good chance Rickey is a guy in the league office.

And have no earthly idea at all how that would give him insight into anything these teams have going on within their draft boards.

If it were that easy, NOLA and Houston wouldn't have been caught with their dicks in their hands in 2017 and the Buffalo Bills wouldn't be dealing with the waste of space that is Kaiir Elam.

Not buying it. This kind of wholesale knowledge ain't out there for some dude to get. Now he may be right that the Chiefs are going after an OT - but I'm not convinced he has any more knowledge than any of the rest of us do in that regard. It's an obvious need and we have an aggressive GM.

The rest is just jerking himself off.
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kccrow 10:45 PM 04-24-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I think there's a pretty good chance Rickey is a guy in the league office.

And have no earthly idea at all how that would give him insight into anything these teams have going on within their draft boards.

If it were that easy, NOLA and Houston wouldn't have been caught with their dicks in their hands in 2017 and the Buffalo Bills wouldn't be dealing with the waste of space that is Kaiir Elam.

Not buying it. This kind of wholesale knowledge ain't out there for some dude to get. Now he may be right that the Chiefs are going after an OT - but I'm not convinced he has any more knowledge than any of the rest of us do in that regard. It's an obvious need and we have an aggressive GM.

The rest is just jerking himself off.
Precisely. Anyone with a pulse on the Chiefs knows we need a LT. It's not some big secret being kept. We all fully expect that Veach will address that before WR if the opportunity is there to actually get a LT he likes.

If an elite LT prospect isn't there but there is the opportunity to get an elite playmaker, I don't foresee Veach passing only to stay put and draft a guy like Suamataia. I just don't think Veach is wired that way.
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Dunerdr 07:20 AM 04-25-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I think there's a pretty good chance Rickey is a guy in the league office.

And have no earthly idea at all how that would give him insight into anything these teams have going on within their draft boards.

If it were that easy, NOLA and Houston wouldn't have been caught with their dicks in their hands in 2017 and the Buffalo Bills wouldn't be dealing with the waste of space that is Kaiir Elam.

Not buying it. This kind of wholesale knowledge ain't out there for some dude to get. Now he may be right that the Chiefs are going after an OT - but I'm not convinced he has any more knowledge than any of the rest of us do in that regard. It's an obvious need and we have an aggressive GM.

The rest is just jerking himself off.
I kind of think he's in an agents office. One of the big agents who has players on every team that would be plugged in.
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Urc Burry 08:17 AM 04-25-2024
Veach himself could only be 60% confident in landing a tackle. Rickey has been batting .800 throughout free agency. But the draft is a different ball game. Especially when the team is slated at 32.

I do think it’s more likely we end up with a tackle over a receiver. But nobody knows shit. See Will Levis or the million other examples
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Couch-Potato 08:56 AM 04-25-2024
Originally Posted by Urc Burry:
Veach himself could only be 60% confident in landing a tackle. Rickey has been batting .800 throughout free agency. But the draft is a different ball game. Especially when the team is slated at 32.

I do think it’s more likely we end up with a tackle over a receiver. But nobody knows shit. See Will Levis or the million other examples
Why? Seems like Paul will be there at the #32 and I'd argue he's worth the pick ahead of the 2nd. Also Guyton, Kiran, and Kingsley are probably available around #32... a top half of the 2nd OT is less likely to bust than a WR.
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