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TambaBerry 06:12 PM 02-28-2023
Have a 3090 currently but am severely bottlenecked. Looking to get the best possible PC that I can build through microcenter in Kansas City. Looking for high end so like 13900k and ddr5 ram.
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Hammock Parties 07:38 PM 06-14-2023
:-)

fuck it, moving all that shit back 8 inches
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jd1020 08:02 PM 06-14-2023
I've always just stuck with the standard 2 front intake, 1 exhaust in the back, and 1 exhaust on the top behind the CPU tower (all 140). I can't remember what video I watched when I started building my own stuff, but the conclusion was that additional fans beyond that configuration was just marginal or no gain.
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Fish 08:36 PM 06-14-2023
Originally Posted by jd1020:
I believe GamersNexus did a video on fan locations and they found that if they had an exhaust fan before the CPU fan it actually increased temps because the exhaust fan is stealing air from the CPU. Might want to keep an eye on that.
Only if you have negative air pressure in the case. Which he would not. Just maintain more intake fans than exhaust fans, and it's not a problem.

Every case is different. But with air cooled CPUs, airflow is incredibly important. With my recent upgrade, I prioritized this. Using the same case, I reduced my temps by ~20+ degrees, just using better quality fans and smarter air flow. While using a CPU with noticeably more power draw that's overclocked to 5.4.
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Fish 08:38 PM 06-14-2023
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
:-)

fuck it, moving all that shit back 8 inches
Why don't you test each configuration? Benchmark that shit.
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jd1020 08:44 PM 06-14-2023
Originally Posted by Fish:
Only if you have negative air pressure in the case. Which he would not. Just maintain more intake fans than exhaust fans, and it's not a problem.
:-)

You are welcome to take it up with GamersNexus. I'll side with the former Dell engineer that now runs his own company and has infinitely more resources than I do to test bench thousands of products.
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Fish 08:56 PM 06-14-2023
Originally Posted by jd1020:
:-)

You are welcome to take it up with GamersNexus. I'll side with the former Dell engineer that now runs his own company and has infinitely more resources than I do to test bench thousands of products.
I watched the video. He's right that in the wrong configuration, too many fans can be detrimental. But only if you install them in a reeruned configuration that results in negative air pressure. Which lots of idiots do.

More fans in proper configuration will give you more airflow and cooler temps though. The only reason it wouldn't is messing up the airflow directions. Clay's CPU/GPU are producing 150W/300W+ alone. That produces a lot of heat that needs moved. More fans move more heat. The newest hardware is super power hungry. If you want to push performance, you can't skimp on fans and you have to be smart on placement.
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jd1020 08:58 PM 06-14-2023
Originally Posted by Fish:
I watched the video. He's right that in the wrong configuration, too many fans can be detrimental. But only if you install them in a reeruned configuration that results in negative air pressure. Which lots of idiots do.
I guess you specifically missed the part where he talked about if you wanted to install 3 intake fans and 3 top exhaust fans that the exhaust fans towards the front of the case will pull air directly out before reaching the CPU and that he recommends installing fans behind the CPU cooler.

So is he right or wrong? Because that's not a negative pressure configuration like you are claiming.

I guess I'm not understanding where you get your belief that a fan infront of another fan is or isn't going to be taking air out of a certain area of the case based on negative, balanced, or positive pressure.
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Fish 09:03 PM 06-14-2023
Originally Posted by jd1020:
I guess you specifically missed the part where he talked about if you wanted to install 3 intake fans and 3 top exhaust fans that the exhaust fans towards the front of the case will pull air directly out before reaching the CPU and that he recommends installing fans behind the CPU cooler.

So is he right or wrong? Because that's not a negative pressure configuration like you are claiming.
He's right. You should not have exhaust fans at the front of the case. That's an example of a bad airflow setup. The frontmost top fan should be intake in that config. Which would give you more intake fans than exhaust. Which provides positive air pressure that you want.

That doesn't mean more fans are bad for airflow. That simply means 6 fans in the wrong config can be bad for airflow.
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jd1020 09:07 PM 06-14-2023
Originally Posted by Fish:
He's right. You should not have exhaust fans at the front of the case. That's an example of a bad airflow setup. The frontmost top fan should be intake in that config. Which would give you more intake fans than exhaust. Which provides positive air pressure that you want.

That doesn't mean more fans are bad for airflow. That simply means 6 fans in the wrong config can be bad for airflow.
So then your first reply to my comment where I tell Clay to look out for that is what exactly?

Because now you are saying the opposite. Before it was not a problem. Now its the fan should be intake.
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Fish 09:13 PM 06-14-2023
Originally Posted by jd1020:
So then your first reply to my comment where I tell Clay to look out for that is what exactly?

Because now you are saying the opposite. Before it was not a problem. Now its the fan should be intake.
OK, my bad. I didn't even notice Clay's fan config. Apologies. I didn't realize he installed 2 top case fans.

I would put his rear exhaust fan all the way to the back of the case. Then flip the front exhaust to intake and move it as far toward the front of the case as possible.
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Hammock Parties 11:20 PM 06-14-2023
Originally Posted by Fish:
Why don't you test each configuration? Benchmark that shit.
Yeah we good now.
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bowener 02:50 PM 07-03-2023
I haven't built a pc in forever.
Can somebody give me their thoughts on this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K34vLs

The GPU will be replaced later this year once I know a bit more for work related needs. Originally I went with the i7, but the i9 appears to have dropped in price so...

I'm not big on rbg, and prefer the cleaner look of this case as it matches my home aesthetics more than a clear flashing box.

I'm going to be using this for d&d and porn mostly, but when required by work, I will need to process some point clouds. I know this isn't a threadripper with 128gb RAM, but I'm hoping to stick a 4080 in it later and hope it handles small batches.

edit: more storage will be added/paid for by out company.

edit 2: I left in a 3060ti from when i was considering an all white build. Swapped for a 4060 ti.
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Hammock Parties 02:53 PM 07-03-2023
looks good to me, don't forget to update the firmware on the 980 Pro, it's vital
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bowener 02:57 PM 07-03-2023
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
looks good to me, don't forget to update the firmware on the 980 Pro, it's vital
Thanks, man. This is the shit that scares me. I'm so ootl on from scratch builds.
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Otter 06:34 PM 07-15-2023
Anyone ever heard of these guys?


https://www.clxgaming.com/promos


Good? Bad? Indifferent?
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