Originally Posted by Megatron96:
I'm only 5' 8" so I get it. Assuming the person is relatively healthy and of at least average height, 8 minute miles shouldn't be that hard with regular practice, imo.
I mean, I ran competitively in HS and a little in college, so maybe I'm not the right person to ask, but I was still able to run sub 8-minute miles (barely, like 7:45+) until I was around 45, with bad knees and ankles. Mostly I think it's a question of proper mechanics and breath control. I mean, 8 minute/miles is only like 7.5 mph. That's a quick jog.
Years ago Army had a 9 minute mark. Do not know since retired but that was part of the fitness test 4 my age back then. It was based on age. TG. Ran 2 times since retiring. Damn Marines still running I bet tho.. [Reply]
Originally Posted by blake5676:
I’m actually running my first ever 5k this Saturday. I’ve always HATED running. But I’m in my early 40’s and stepped on the scale in December to find out I was 20lbs heavier than I thought. And I already thought I was chubby bordering fat. Walked my ass straight downstairs and got on the treadmill. Spent almost every day in December-Feb on that damn treadmill. Started with 3 miles incline walking at a fast pace for about 6 weeks until that stopped getting my heart rate as high as I wanted and then I transitioned to running. Got pretty used to running 2-3 miles almost every day and managed to shed a little over 40lbs by end of March.
All that being said, I still don’t ENJOY running. Never caught the bug like a lot of people do. I do like the fact I can do it and not die and I certainly feel better overall. But I’ve still never ran outside, only on the treadmill. So Saturday will be my first “real” 5k I’ve ever run. Kinda unsure if I expect it to be easier or tougher than down in my basement.
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
It’s going to be harder.
Funny that you say that because I've always thought it's way easier to run on the pavement than it is on the "dread"mill. I also go way faster on the road when running a comparable pace. Not sure why, maybe it's because I started running on the road instead of the treadmill. [Reply]
Originally Posted by phisherman:
Funny that you say that because I've always thought it's way easier to run on the pavement than it is on the "dread"mill. I also go way faster on the road when running a comparable pace. Not sure why, maybe it's because I started running on the road instead of the treadmill.
I checked a couple reddit running threads and the sentiment was pretty much a mixed bag. Half felt the way you do and the other half said outdoors is definitely tougher.
I tend to think it's probably dependent on what you were saying, whether you started or your primary setting in outside or not. [Reply]
Originally Posted by carcosa:
Doc says I broke EVERY bone in BOTH feet! If this thread gets 1,000 posts I'll post the x-rays!! Let's GOO!!!!!!!!
As a former Cross Country runner in High School, shin splints was a common thing. I'd guess you'de look similar to Cotton off the sitcom, King of the Hill. "I gots no shins" [Reply]
Originally Posted by phisherman:
A buddy of mine told me two things about running any kind of distance a long time ago. One is that running fast hurts and you have to learn how to compartmentalize pain. The second was more of a breathing trick; I breathe in and breathe out while I count strides. The numbers subtly change as I speed up but the whole purpose of that exercise was to get my mind on something other than the burning in my legs and lungs. Now I only do the counting thing if I'm trying to pick up the pace but it still taught me a lot about breath control and forcing my brain to think of something else when it really hurts.
I hate distance running. I’ve found that thinking of an imaginary scenario of me fighting helps me settle and get comfortable. In my head I’m fucking Jet Li, fighting 10 dudes at once and whooping ass. When I snap out of my delusion I notice I’ve run a half mile and didn’t even notice.
It’s pretty weird how much of it is mental.
Originally Posted by blake5676:
I’m actually running my first ever 5k this Saturday. I’ve always HATED running. But I’m in my early 40’s and stepped on the scale in December to find out I was 20lbs heavier than I thought. And I already thought I was chubby bordering fat. Walked my ass straight downstairs and got on the treadmill. Spent almost every day in December-Feb on that damn treadmill. Started with 3 miles incline walking at a fast pace for about 6 weeks until that stopped getting my heart rate as high as I wanted and then I transitioned to running. Got pretty used to running 2-3 miles almost every day and managed to shed a little over 40lbs by end of March.
All that being said, I still don’t ENJOY running. Never caught the bug like a lot of people do. I do like the fact I can do it and not die and I certainly feel better overall. But I’ve still never ran outside, only on the treadmill. So Saturday will be my first “real” 5k I’ve ever run. Kinda unsure if I expect it to be easier or tougher than down in my basement.
Outside should be a little tougher. On the treadmill you can change up your gait to sort of let the treadmill do more of the work; whereas, running outside it is 100% up to you to propel yourself forward.
But then again, I find running on the treadmill to be, possibly, the most boring activity on the face of the earth. Running outside does help me mentally. [Reply]
I know loads of runners and don't know any that think outside running is easier.. a few don't like treadmill running, but all say the treadmill is easier.
Apart from the obvious stuff, like weather conditions, half of the problem people have with running distances is pacing. The treadmill does that for you, it won't let you fuck yourself over by starting too fast because you are in a crowd at a start line. [Reply]
Originally Posted by blake5676:
I checked a couple reddit running threads and the sentiment was pretty much a mixed bag. Half felt the way you do and the other half said outdoors is definitely tougher.
I tend to think it's probably dependent on what you were saying, whether you started or your primary setting in outside or not.
Treadmills are for speed workouts and outdoors are for tempo\slow runs. If your goal is to be like a kenya runner than you set that bitch at 8MPH and do a 6 x 800 with a 400 break and just progressively build out your distance every week (speed wise). Tempo runs are outside and you set a distance and push your tempo with a running watch (once a week). [Reply]
Originally Posted by phisherman:
Funny that you say that because I've always thought it's way easier to run on the pavement than it is on the "dread"mill. I also go way faster on the road when running a comparable pace. Not sure why, maybe it's because I started running on the road instead of the treadmill.
The treadmill is much softer; allows you to heel strike and bounce without incurring shin splints or other injuries. Also, it pulls your feet back with every stride, so you have to use less energy to run a particular speed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chargem:
I know loads of runners and don't know any that think outside running is easier.. a few don't like treadmill running, but all say the treadmill is easier.
Apart from the obvious stuff, like weather conditions, half of the problem people have with running distances is pacing. The treadmill does that for you, it won't let you fuck yourself over by starting too fast because you are in a crowd at a start line.
I hate the treadmill. Too fucking boring, and if you run like Pacheco you're liable for any damages [Reply]
