ChiefsPlanet Mobile
Page 6 of 51
« First < 23456 7891016 > Last »
Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Liberals... What exactly are you afraid of?
GloryDayz 10:04 PM 12-22-2016
We've seen the supposedly calm-and-cool flower children of the left morph from self-proclaimed peace loving people to ravenous angry old wo/men now that Hillary lost. So far all we've heard are claims that Donald Trump is terrible and the worst person in the world.

We all know he grabbed the pussy of a woman who wasn't bothered by it enough to file against him; is that what's so bad that he'll end the world? He's rich?

What's he going to do, or undo, that's going to end the world? What progress has happened that's now going to be stopped or reversed/undone?

Can you please be more specific, what are you afraid of?

Discuss...
[Reply]
Rausch 11:10 AM 12-23-2016
As much as I currently enjoy liberal tears we need rational liberals back.

We NEED them.

It's like left vs. right brain. We need both.

And I think for this election a wide win is good but in a perfect world any president would have no more than either the house or senate. One or the other. Never both...
[Reply]
Shaid 11:12 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
The economy hasn't really recovered, it's an apparency. A new bubble was merely created. Just because there is a tad of improvement, it's been at the expense of greater debt, govt spending and inflation,plus the fundamentals are still damaged and were being damaged even before Obama but he hasn't put his finger on some of the right causes. The damage created by the Fed Reserve need to be repaired for more growth but it will take a period of pain for that to get us on a better long-term track. Trump has said there could be another economic crash as a result and some others who follow Fed policy, are predicting the same.

It's really not a hard fact that Trump won the popular vote. There's charges that 3, even 4 million illegals voted. Massive fraud was found in the Detroit recount. Deductive reasoning suggests there's more in other big cities as they are Democratic strong holds. But keep believin' the Fake News.

As to Obama's popularity, he's personable but the fact that polls continued to show upwards of 70% not happy with the direction of the country contradicts some of that. And he lost most states and Democrats have lost most state legislatures.
yep, keep believin that fake news.... Having both dems and reps at the polling places to watch out for those things doesn't matter at all. I'm not questioning the abnormally high turnout in rural areas. The only possible fraud must be in Dem areas, that's what Fox tells me!

You do realize that 70% not happy with the direction of the country could have a lot of influence on congress which has a much lower approval rate or do you just want to discount that fact because the House has been under Republican control for so long? More false narratives.

Trump won the electoral college, I accept that and understand that he will pass some things I don't like and some things I do like, Hillary would have done the same. I'm hoping we make good ground in trade, where he could be stronger. I'm hoping he doesn't push idiotic things like nuclear proliferation.

I'm taking a wait and see approach, I think most people are doing the same.
[Reply]
Just Passin' By 11:14 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by Rausch:
As much as I currently enjoy liberal tears we need rational liberals back.
They've become not quite as rare as unicorns, but less often seen than Bigfoot.
[Reply]
Rausch 11:15 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
As to Obama's popularity, he's personable but the fact that polls continued to show upwards of 70% not happy with the direction of the country contradicts a lot of that. So some may be Fake Polls. His party lost most states and Democrats have lost most state legislatures who get voted into power by the people.
Are you suggesting that polls aren't accurate?...
[Reply]
Sweet Daddy Hate 11:15 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
When you ask a liberal what, exactly, about Trump is scaring them, this is what you get:

:-)

That is incredible.
[Reply]
Just Passin' By 11:20 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
What exactly is this GIF?
Mexican pointy boots

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_pointy_boots


[Reply]
Fairplay 11:23 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Almost all liberals claim to be moderates.

I've found that out over time that's a fact.
[Reply]
Fairplay 11:26 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by Rausch:
As much as I currently enjoy liberal tears we need rational liberals back.

Direckshun thinks he's rational, do you think he is?
[Reply]
Rausch 11:34 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by Fairplay:
Direckshun thinks he's rational, do you think he is?
If I thought any of them were rational I wouldn't be saying this...
[Reply]
Shaid 11:37 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Yeah, I noticed that too. It sounds nice and pleasant to say that. It's just a clever sound byte to market themselves as "reasonable" and marginalize real American Patriots. :-)

All it means is that they are a mix of both sides, without any guiding principles of Constitutionalism. Each moderate is just made up of a different mix that they choose from cafeteria-style. But everyone still has a lean, including moderates. Mushy moderates.
No, you seem to want everyone to fit into a nice box with a pretty bow, most people don't and fall into a wide variety of camps. I lean more democratic in Tax policy, but more republican in social issues. I think Dems have pushed the all inclusive narrative too far.

I believe gays should be allowed to get married, but they'd better not try to force a church to marry them if that isn't within the church's beliefs. If a business chooses to discriminate, I think that is their right. You can't force them to do something they don't want to do, people are entitled to their beliefs. They just need to understand that if they do so, some people may decide to protest in front of their business.

I don't agree that people who "identify" themselves as one sex should be allowed to use that bathroom. They may or may not pose a threat to the other individuals in that bathroom, but their individual freedom doesn't override the freedoms of the people in that bathroom that were born that way.

I believe in a National Healthcare system. I work in that industry so this doesn't help me. I've seen the insane rates that are charged because people don't have a choice, they need to go to a hospital or they need to take a certain type of medication. Paying 10k a month for a medication you need to stay alive isn't ok when it costs so much less to make. I understand the upfront costs but this isn't exclusive to new medications. Buying rights to a drug that cost pennies a pill and increasing the rate by a huge amount is not ok. It's too much of a drain on people's pocketbooks and bankrupts families, we need to correct that. I had an example where an individual wanted approval to get an operation done in Germany, it cost a third of what it cost here and the procedures they used were better than our own. We approved it. We had an anesthesiologist who was making 3 times the medicare rate and wanted to make 9 times that rate so they threatened to leave the network unless they got it. Can't do a lot when a certain hospital only uses a certain anesthesiology group.

I could keep going but the reality is you can't just decide to throw everyone into a box just because you want to label them a certain way. I have varying opinions and most people do. Step down from the high horse.
[Reply]
Fairplay 11:55 AM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by Rausch:
If I thought any of them were rational I wouldn't be saying this...
Oh, I wasn't sure if you thought any of them were sane or not.

You answered my question. I think the same way as you BTW.
[Reply]
Prison Bitch 12:37 PM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by Fairplay:
I've found that out over time that's a fact.
It's why they form groups with names like "Mainstream coalition". Mainstream being all things Democratic Party of course.
[Reply]
srvy 01:01 PM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
What exactly is this GIF?
Scene from Brokeback Mountain? :-)
[Reply]
GayFrogs 01:28 PM 12-23-2016
I'm liberal and I'm more scared of who Donald is surrounding himself with. I thought of a lot of silver linings when he got elected...now any sense of optimism I had is gone with the most cartoonishly right-wing cabinet ever assembled.
[Reply]
Direckshun 01:48 PM 12-23-2016
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
You can't be in your right mind if your concern is "temperament", but you think Hillary would have been better. I think her lashings-out are well documented, and she was somebody NOBODY should want with the football. She's 23746947646393x more scary that Trump when it comes to anger issues.
That has not been well documented whatsoever. It's all based on anti-Hillary hearsay. But we aren't operating with hearsay with Trump. We have seen it for decades, but we've seen it up close and personal for two years.

I don't know if you're capable of seeing it because you're in Trumpworld, but everybody, including conservatives, who haven't been seduced into that odd reality understand that Trump is virtually unprecedented when it comes to his complete lack of temperamental restraint.

The closest you can get in American political history is Andrew Johnson. And Johnson was a drunk that ended up getting impeached.
[Reply]
Page 6 of 51
« First < 23456 7891016 > Last »
Up