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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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BucEyedPea 11:07 AM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
I guess so. I just looked my uncle up, he's got his own clinic in fresno.
You have to also realize that doctors have political positions. It's not like they all understand economics or have studied public policy enough. Dr. Atlas has that kind of background. And that's the problem with using "experts" educated too narrowly. There is no balance or perspective.

Then we John Hopkins doctors who have been in the camp for the UN 2030 agenda. Doctors and healthcare workers do politic and advance the cause of the state and reduce liberty or even safety. We saw that in fascist Germany. We can see it with that experimental vaccine given to the military that spawned the Spanish Flu. We can see that with the Tuskagee situation on African-Americans. Doctors in service to the state do not always have noble goals. A little history helps to know.
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Just Passin' By 12-16-2020, 11:09 AM
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tyecopeland 11:14 AM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
You have to also realize that doctors have political positions. It's not like they all understand economics or have studied public policy enough. Dr. Atlas has that kind of background. And that's the problem with using "experts" educated too narrowly. There is no balance or perspective.

Then we John Hopkins doctors who have been in the camp for the UN 2030 agenda. Doctors and healthcare workers do politic and advance the cause of the state and reduce liberty or even safety. We saw that in fascist Germany. We can see it with that experimental vaccine given to the military that spawned the Spanish Flu. We can see that with the Tuskagee situation on African-Americans. Doctors in service to the state do not always have noble goals. A little history helps to know.
What in the fuck does that have to do with me finding out my uncle has a clinic in fresno or me wondering if he's getting the vaccine early or not?
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BucEyedPea 11:19 AM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
What in the **** does that have to do with me finding out my uncle has a clinic in fresno or me wondering if he's getting the vaccine early or not?
It doesn't. I just chose that to respond to your general implication of knowing a doctor to boost your claims.
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tyecopeland 11:26 AM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
It doesn't. I just chose that to respond to your general implication of knowing a doctor to boost your claims.
What claims? I've made no claims about the vaccine. And I've already stated I rarely talk to my uncle.
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KCChiefsFan88 11:59 AM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I'm all for our plan regarding who gets the vaccines first. It's completely logical.

It's also completely logical to continue individual mitigation efforts until you get vaccinated. We know that masks help control and reduce the spread of COVID-19.

It's being strained by increases in hospitalizations. And we are seeing that with some mitigation efforts. Now, imagine what it would be like under your "plan."

Again, just stop.
Lockdowns and draconian mask mandates are no longer feasible.

Most of the high risk population will be vaccinated within the next few weeks and those who cannot will need to self-quarantine until they get the vaccine.
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banyon 12:03 PM 12-16-2020
I will say in this thread that I have a bit more confidence in the PFE vaccine than the MRNA one.

MRNA just a very new company, no track record, and putting the board member on the Operation Warp Speed seems like a conflict of interest.

I would much prefer to take the PFE if available.

I think MRNA's vaccine may work in the abstract, but more concerned with QC.
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Lex Luthor 12:05 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Lockdowns and draconian mask mandates are no longer feasible.

Most of the high risk population will be vaccinated within the next few weeks and those who cannot will need to self-quarantine until they get the vaccine.
Calling a mask mandate "draconian" is just plain stupid. It's a common sense precaution that would be incredibly easy to implement if Trump hadn't decided to turn mask-wearing into a political statement.
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GloryDayz 12:07 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
I will say in this thread that I have a bit more confidence in the PFE vaccine than the MRNA one.

MRNA just a very new company, no track record, and putting the board member on the Operation Warp Speed seems like a conflict of interest.

I would much prefer to take the PFE if available.

I think MRNA's vaccine may work in the abstract, but more concerned with QC.
You'll most likely be getting a placebo or Vitamin-B shot, so stop worrying.
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Donger 12:10 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Lockdowns and draconian mask mandates are no longer feasible.

Most of the high risk population will be vaccinated within the next few weeks and those who cannot will need to self-quarantine until they get the vaccine.
Or, they could just keep wearing a mask and other mitigation efforts until the vaccines are widely-available, as we know that wearing a mask helps prevent the spread of COVID-19.

Your plan is foolish. Going for herd immunity without a vaccine was and is foolish.
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GloryDayz 12:17 PM 12-16-2020
I'm still up for taking the vaccine, too bad healthy people won't see it for a long long time.
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banyon 12:19 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
You'll most likely be getting a placebo or Vitamin-B shot, so stop worrying.
:-)
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GloryDayz 12:20 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by banyon:
:-)
That was a joke, sorry if you took it the wrong way.

Where are you in line for getting your first shot?
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Mizzou_8541 12:21 PM 12-16-2020
I signed up for it via the VA. Said they’d let me know when it becomes available.
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banyon 01:00 PM 12-16-2020
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
That was a joke, sorry if you took it the wrong way.

Where are you in line for getting your first shot?
Our state doesn't have any lines or plans except to get it to health care workers right now that I am aware of.
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BigBeauford 03:17 PM 12-16-2020
I've signed up. Hoping to get it in the next month.
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