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Nzoner's Game Room>What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2
dlphg9 05:43 AM 02-17-2021
Spoiler alert!

Nothing is wrong with him! Unless you consider Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce as being a problem.

Mecole was 3rd on the team in targets (62), rec yards (560), and rec TDs (4). Those stats are right in line with any other teams 3rd most productive receiver and none of those other teams had 2 guys that were 1st team AP in front of that guy.

Green Bay Packers #1 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Robert Tonyan - 59 targets, 52 rec, 586 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 212
Rec - 148
Yards - 2064

Buffalo Bills #2 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Gabriel Davis - 62 targets, 35 rec, 599 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 273
Rec - 209
Yards - 2502

Tampa Bay Buccaneers #3 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Rob Gronkowski - 77 targets, 45 rec, 623 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 193
Rec - 135
Yards - 1846

Tennessee Titans #4 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jonnu Smith - 65 targets, 41 rec, 448 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 198
Rec - 135
Yards - 2059

New Orleans Saints #5 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jared Cook - 60 targets, 37 rec, 504 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 189
Rec - 144
Yards - 1482

Baltimore Ravens #7 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Willie Snead - 48 targets, 33 rec, 432 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 188
Rec - 116
Yards - 1470

Seattle Seahawks #8 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
David Moore - 47 targets, 35 rec, 417 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 261
Rec - 183
Yards - 2357

Indianapolis Colts #9 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Michael Pittman Jr. - 61 targets, 40 rec, 503 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 164
Rec - 99
Yards - 1391

Las Vegas Raiders #10 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Hunter Renfrow - 77 targets, 56 rec, 656 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 227
Rec - 155
Yards - 2092

Average for top 10 scoring offense's 3rd most productive receiving option :

Targets - 62
Receptions - 41
Yards - 530

Average for top 10 scoring offense's top 2 most productive receiving options combined :

Targets - 212
Receptions - 147
Yards - 1918


This is how Hardman stacks up against the other teams 3rd receiving option

Targets - 62 (62 avg)
Receptions - 41 (41 avg)
Yards - 560 (530 avg)

Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce combined

Targets - 280 (most in group)
Receptions - 192 (2nd most in group)
Yards - 2692 (most in group)

So what we can see from these stats above is that nothing is up with Mecole Hardman. His targets and reception matched the average of the 9 other top offenses 3rd receiving option and he was above average in yards, but the big huge difference is Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill just happen to be on the same team as him. Those two have 68 more combined targets, 45 more combined receptions, and 774 more combined yards than the others teams top 2 receiving threats.

TLDR;

Nothing is wrong, he's right in line with the other teams 3rd most productive pass catchers. Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are monsters and the best pass catching duo in a long ass time.

PS:

Seriously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are so good! There was only 11 QBs with more TD passes than those 2 had receiving TDs.

PSS:

Fucking Cam Newton started 15 games and had 45 less passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards in the same amount of games!

PSSS:

Fucking MVP Lamar had 65 more passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards and they tied for the same amount of passing TDs to receiving TDs.
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RunKC 10:49 PM 10-24-2021
Originally Posted by Mecca:
He was a more productive player in college than Hardman...Hardmans literally an Al Davis pick all he can do is run fast.
That’s Andy’s style. Does Tyreek Hill or DeSean Jackson ring a bell?

And yes DK was not a good prospect. He was a broke dick in college. He had season ending injuries in 2 of his 3 years at Ole Miss. he could only run 1 route well and his lateral speed was worse than Tom Brady.

He was a boom or bust prospect, not Calvin Johnson.
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Mecca 10:59 PM 10-24-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
That’s Andy’s style. Does Tyreek Hill or DeSean Jackson ring a bell?

And yes DK was not a good prospect. He was a broke dick in college. He had season ending injuries in 2 of his 3 years at Ole Miss. he could only run 1 route well and his lateral speed was worse than Tom Brady.

He was a boom or bust prospect, not Calvin Johnson.
Who knew a guy the size of a tight end with elite WR speed would be good... amazing.
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-King- 11:04 PM 10-24-2021
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Who knew a guy the size of a tight end with elite WR speed would be good... amazing.
People got caught up on 3 cone drill which is ironic because watching him play, Hardman has almost no shiftiness or bend in his play. He's just straight line speed.
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Mecca 11:05 PM 10-24-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
People got caught up on 3 cone drill which is ironic because watching him play, Hardman has almost no shiftiness or bend in his play. He's just straight line speed.
This team has repeatedly missed on guys who'd have added actual playmaking to the offense in favor of I dunno what.

How do you take CEH over Higgins unless you're refusing to take a WR because people will say you're admitting Hardman sucks.
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TLO 03:01 PM 01-30-2022
Looks like a different player.

Confident.
Focused.
Playmaker.
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Munson 05:30 PM 01-30-2022
Originally Posted by TLO:
Looks like a different player.

Confident.
Focused.
Playmaker.
He turned into a different player late in the season.

Maybe things finally clicked for him.
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TLO 01:06 PM 10-03-2022
Did he even have a single target last night?
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Hammock Parties 01:16 PM 10-03-2022
chiefs threw one gadget/extended handoff play to hardman last nite

two to kelce, one to juju, one to MVS

the fact he isn't getting every one of these plays is a huge sign the coaching staff just doesn't care to force feed him anymore

he was force fed these plays last year
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TLO 01:20 PM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by Hank Hill:
Looks like a different player.

Confident.
Focused.
Playmaker.
This is aging horribly.. BTW
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kcclone 01:26 PM 10-03-2022
Originally Posted by Hank Hill:
Did he even have a single target last night?


He's a non-factor unfortunately. In fairness, he was wide open in the end zone on one play, but Mahomes missed him and threw to Watson. It's safe to say, Mahomes has probably forgotten about him because he simply doesn't trust him.
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