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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Chief Roundup 09:55 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
If only that was true. You would have to go to some work to disable the airbags.
Huh? Do you mean like turning a key switch to the off position? That is not work or hard.
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MahomesMagic 10:19 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Do you see the name of this thread?
Keep your politics out of it. If that means you cannot post an article then find a different article. This has been talked about ad nauseam.
Not a political post. This is a major development when an upcoming change in national vaccine strategy is being considered at the White House.
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TLO 10:52 AM 07-24-2021

Real-world data out of Italy (ISS) on overall vaccine effectiveness (both doses) shows:

•Symptomatic Infection: 88% [87.9-88.4%]
•Hospitalization: 95% [94.6-95.2%]
•ICU Admission: 97% [96.5-98.0%]
•Death: 96% [95.6-96.5%]

Delta (B.1.617.2) makes up ~60% of Italy’s cases.

— Chise �������� (@sailorrooscout) July 24, 2021

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Swanman 10:56 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by stevieray:
Feel better?



It's funny watching you attach labels and motives for me.



Powerball numbers?



Do you do this to people in real life too, or just on the internet hiding behind your computer?
You are a self-righteous shithead and I would tell that to your face and on the internet.

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Swanman 10:57 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Your friends and family are more likely to be taken ill by covid because you're not vaccinated.



You may feel like the risk is negligible (and that's entirely reasonable), but please clearly explain how the above statement is a false narrative.
It's a false narrative because it goes against his anti-vax stance.

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Chief Roundup 10:58 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Not a political post. This is a major development when an upcoming change in national vaccine strategy is being considered at the White House.
When you are mentioning the president and the white house, it is political.

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wazu 10:58 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by TLO:
WTF does this even mean? 95% of people who are vaccinated are hospitalized with infection?
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O.city 11:00 AM 07-24-2021
Percent effectiveness against severe disease when compared to unvaccinated. If I’m remembering correctly.
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stevieray 11:05 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by Swanman:
You are a self-righteous shithead and I would tell that to your face and on the internet.

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Sure you would, right after you post your pic! :-)

That said, your post reads like projection.

Parent your children, instead of adults.
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stevieray 11:06 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by Swanman:
It's a false narrative because it goes against his anti-vax stance.

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there you again, ascribing labels.

seems self righteous

:-)
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NotDonger 11:07 AM 07-24-2021

Vaccination prevented ~75% of hospitalizations in England's Delta wave, as determined by modelinghttps://t.co/EWtgB2Vjgx @FT @mroliverbarnes @jburnmurdoch
"@PHE_UK estimates...vaccines being used in the UK are between 91 and 97 per cent effective in preventing hospitalisation." pic.twitter.com/ZUz0Xuaa6f

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) July 24, 2021

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wazu 11:07 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
Percent effectiveness against severe disease when compared to unvaccinated. If I’m remembering correctly.
So it's 96% effective for people who get vaccinated and then die of COVID anyway?
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NotDonger 11:13 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by wazu:
WTF does this even mean? 95% of people who are vaccinated are hospitalized with infection?
I believe that's efficacy against among the fully vaccinated.
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wazu 11:15 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by NotDonger:
I believe that's efficacy against among the fully vaccinated.
So 96% of people who were fully vaccinated died of COVID? Or is it the much better, but still absolutely horrible number of 4%?
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NotDonger 11:23 AM 07-24-2021
Originally Posted by wazu:
So 96% of people who were fully vaccinated died of COVID? Or is it the much better, but still absolutely horrible number of 4%?
The latter, more or less.

Singapore is interesting. There have been reports that 75% of their cases are among the vaccinated, but there's a catch.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/paper...singapore.html

Of Singapore's 1,096 locally transmitted infections in the last 28 days, 484, or about 44 percent, were in fully vaccinated people, while 30 percent were partially vaccinated and just over 25 percent were unvaccinated, Thursday's data showed.

Plus, Singapore is one of the most highly vaccinated countries, so it makes sense that they are seeing a lot of breakthrough cases. I don't know which vaccines they are using, though.
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