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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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loochy 05:23 AM 05-05-2021
Originally Posted by kcxiv:
Looking really solid here in California. 0 deaths the last few days in L.A county. Very low positivity rate. *knocks on wood that it stays this way*

*edit* there was some today, but still its very low compared to watch it used to be.

Sounds bad. You'd better close schools and small businesses.
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WhawhaWhat 06:16 AM 05-05-2021
I got my second Pfizer shot on Monday and felt very minimal flu-like side effects. Next morning I was fine.
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O.city 06:41 AM 05-05-2021
India is still just getting rolled with no sign of stopping
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notorious 06:47 AM 05-05-2021
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
I got my second Pfizer shot on Monday and felt very minimal flu-like side effects. Next morning I was fine.
I got the J&J Friday.

Mild headache, I could feel my lymph nodes were swollen a bit (could be allergies) and a noticeable lack of energy.

I am usually very active, but it took the edge off of my normal activities for days.

I kind of chuckled at people complaining about a sore shoulder, thinking they were just pussies, but it is true. My arm was sore for days when other shots aren't anything like that.
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dirk digler 06:50 AM 05-05-2021
Pfizer had some big news yesterday. They are going to apply for full approval this month and also hopefully get EUA approved to give their vaccine to kids ages 2-11 by September. Sounds like the FDA is also about to say the vaccines are good for anyone over 12 by next week.
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phisherman 07:30 AM 05-05-2021
Let's see if full approval changes anything with the anti-vaxxers.
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loochy 07:34 AM 05-05-2021
Originally Posted by phisherman:
Let's see if full approval changes anything with the anti-vaxxers.
Dude, of course not. I'm pretty sure that most of them are using an anti-vax stance to justify just being obstinate.
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MahomesMagic 07:38 AM 05-05-2021
Don’t buy the fearmongering: The COVID-19 threat is waning
By Marty Makary

The case-fatality risk of COVID is also plummeting. That’s because a remarkable 83 percent of US seniors are now vaccinated and the virus has moved to younger, healthier people. For Americans under age 55, the case-fatality rate last month was approximately 6.5 per 10,000. Since we are now capturing as many as 1 in 4.5 infections with testing, the real-world case-fatality rate is 1 to 1.4 per 10,000, similar to influenza (1.3 per 10,000 in people under 50). And vaccines will likely provide at least some immunity against variants.

With far fewer susceptible people and a younger cohort, we’re dealing with a different risk level than even just a few months ago.

Despite this good news, Americans are being told variants and hesitancy will prevent “herd immunity.” Yet noticeably absent from their calculations is the contribution of natural immunity from prior infection or exposure. Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Rochelle Walensky simply don’t talk about the percent of Americans they estimate have natural immunity. That omission creates a perception that the race to 70 to 85 percent immunity is more desperate, resulting in a prolonged timeline, talk of vaccine mandates and an imperative that young kids get the shot.


Some experts do highlight the massive contribution of natural immunity. Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former head of the Food and Drug Administration, and Dr. Monica Gandhi at the University of California are among the many who routinely point to the broad prevalence of natural immunity.

In a recent Danish study of natural immunity, only 0.6 percent of those infected ever subsequently tested positive, including asymptomatic positives. A large California study found 38 percent of the state’s population and 45 percent of Los Angeles residents had COVID-19 antibodies in February. Given the many infections since then and the immunity conferred by activated T cells even when antibodies are not detected, upward of half the population of California likely has natural immunity. And cases in California have dropped like a rock.

On a clinical level, we simply have not seen significant re-infections at any concerning rate. Any expert who talks about the path to herd immunity as a simple tally of vaccinations alone – which unfortunately is many – is ignoring data and real-world clinical experience.



https://nypost.com/2021/05/04/dont-b...eat-is-ending/
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KCUnited 07:45 AM 05-05-2021
Eyeballing a full reopening here in Chicago by 7/4. The largest auto show in the nation is returning in July and we're seeing some other festivals starting to book out as well.
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TLO 10:02 AM 05-05-2021
India is getting absolutely pummeled.
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dirk digler 10:09 AM 05-05-2021
Originally Posted by phisherman:
Let's see if full approval changes anything with the anti-vaxxers.
It should help some with the ones that are hesitant. It will also enable businesses to mandate you get one as an employee.
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TLO 11:09 AM 05-05-2021
Maybe India should start lobbing nukes at Chy-nuh
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kcxiv 11:41 AM 05-05-2021
Originally Posted by loochy:
Sounds bad. You'd better close schools and small businesses.
yeah, real bad.
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sedated 01:02 PM 05-05-2021
I know exactly one person that hasn't gotten at least one vax shot. All friends, family, and everyone in my office have gotten it. Really surprising how quickly everything moved after the initial logjam.
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Indian Chief 01:05 PM 05-05-2021
Under 10% COVID in the daily patient census. Had been solidly 15-20% since September.
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