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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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Donger 10:09 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Yeah, but don't tell Donger that. He even disputes that hard fact.
:-)

You really want to do this again?
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BleedingRed 10:09 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Of course the mRNA vaccines are vaccines. They aren't gene therapy.
They are gene therapy, there is zero way around it.
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Donger 10:11 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
:-)

First of all no 600k American's didn't die of COVID. Period point blank, if you want to believe the propaganda number go ahead.

Secondly, *parts of the country shut down* are you a dipshit or did you forget about WWI
FAKESZ NUMBERSZZ BECAUSE MEZ DON'T LIKE THEMZ!

:-)

But fully believes the Spanish Flu numbers. Neat.

What does WWI have to do with the fact that parts of the country shut down during the Spanish Flu, you ignorant twunt?
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BleedingRed 10:11 AM 05-24-2021
Explain to me how Messenger RNA is considered anything other than gene therapy.... I'd love to hear it.
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BleedingRed 10:11 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
FAKESZ NUMBERSZZ BECAUSE MEZ DON'T LIKE THEMZ!

:-)

But fully believes the Spanish Flu numbers. Neat.

What does WWI have to do with the fact that parts of the country shut down during the Spanish Flu, you ignorant twunt?
Awe getting upset? Don't be a little bitch.
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Donger 10:12 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
They are gene therapy, there is zero way around it.
Okay. How does an mRNA vaccine constitute gene therapy? Please be scientifically specific.
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Donger 10:12 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Awe getting upset? Don't be a little bitch.
No, I'm laughing at your arrogant ignorance. It's delightful.

Did you look it up yet in your book?
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BucEyedPea 10:14 AM 05-24-2021
More soldiers died during WWI from disease than from bullets.

The pandemic was not flu. An estimated 95% (or higher) of the deaths were caused by bacterial pneumonia, not influenza/a virus.
The Spanish Flu

The pandemic was not Spanish. The first cases of bacterial pneumonia in 1918 trace back to a military base in Fort Riley, Kansas.

From January 21 – June 4, 1918, an experimental bacterial meningitis vaccine cultured in horses by the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research in New York was injected into soldiers at Fort Riley.

During the remainder of 1918 as those soldiers – often living and traveling under poor sanitary conditions – were sent to Europe to fight, they spread bacteria at every stop between Kansas and the frontline trenches in France.

One study describes soldiers “with active infections (who) were aerosolizing the bacteria that colonized their noses and throats, while others—often, in the same “breathing spaces”—were profoundly susceptible to invasion of and rapid spread through their lungs by their own or others’ colonizing bacteria.” (1)

The “Spanish Flu” attacked healthy people in their prime. Bacterial pneumonia attacks people in their prime. Flu attacks the young, old and immunocompromised.

When WW1 ended on November 11, 1918, soldiers returned to their home countries and colonial outposts, spreading the killer bacterial pneumonia worldwide.

During WW1, the Rockefeller Institute also sent the anti-meningococcal serum to England, France, Belgium, Italy and other countries, helping spread the epidemic worldwide....

In 2018, the Pharmaceutical industry is the largest campaign donor to politicians and the largest advertiser in all forms of media, so not much has changed over 100 years.

This story will likely be ignored by mainstream media because their salaries are paid by pharmaceutical advertising....

[BFrom a Long List of References[/B]

Deaths from Bacterial Pneumonia during 1918–19 Influenza Pandemic
John F. Brundage* and G. Dennis Shanks†
Author affiliations: *Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center, Silver Spring, Maryland, USA; †Australian Army Malaria Institute, Enoggera, Queensland, Australia
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/14/8/07-1313_article


J Infect Dis. 2008 Oct 1; 198(7): 962–970.
Predominant Role of Bacterial Pneumonia as a Cause of Death in Pandemic Influenza: Implications for Pandemic Influenza Preparedness
David M. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, and Anthony S. Fauci

https://www.ncbi.:-).nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/
PDF of Fort Riley Study (1918)
https://www.ncbi.n l m.nih.gov/pmc/a...88/pdf/449.pdf
American Experience, “The First Wave”, PBS
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexp...nfluenza-first

Kevin Barry former federal attorney, a rep at the UN HQ in New York and the author of Vaccine Whistleblower: Reprinted with permission here: here:https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/...e-spanish-flu/




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BleedingRed 10:14 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Okay. How does an mRNA vaccine constitute gene therapy? Please be scientifically specific.
https://hsci.harvard.edu/translation...gene-therapies

Corrected genes are inserted into a patient’s cell, triggering that cell to make the right protein at the right time.

"mRNA vaccines contain material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus."

DURRRR
DURRRRR
DURRRRR

ITS SO DIFFERENT YOU GUYZ!?!?! LOOK TOTALLY DIFFERENT!?!?! One stimulated the body to produce a certain type of protein, the other one trigger the body how to make a protein..........
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Donger 10:18 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
https://hsci.harvard.edu/translation...gene-therapies

Corrected genes are inserted into a patient’s cell, triggering that cell to make the right protein at the right time.

"mRNA vaccines contain material from the virus that causes COVID-19 that gives our cells instructions for how to make a harmless protein that is unique to the virus."

DURRRR
DURRRRR
DURRRRR
Yes, that's gene therapy. And that's not what the mRNA vaccines do. They don't insert corrected genes at all.

The mRNA vaccines do not touch the nucleus of the cell, where DNA resides. Hence, they are not gene therapy and do not alter DNA in any way.
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AdolfOliverBush 10:24 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Yes, that's gene therapy. And that's not what the mRNA vaccines do. They don't insert corrected genes at all.

The mRNA vaccines do not touch the nucleus of the cell, where DNA resides. Hence, they are not gene therapy and do not alter DNA in any way.
Damn, you got the whackos all fired up. Lew Rockwell links and everything! :-)
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BucEyedPea 10:26 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Awe getting upset? Don't be a little bitch.
His data is suspect about parts of the country being shut down with no specific differences stated. It's on par with alleging "It's the science." LOL

It wasn't "parts" of the "country" as a general sweeping claim but limited to some areas. Some schools , movie theaters, and other public places would be closed to prevent the spread but not entire states.
Students were asked to quarantine on campus but classes and assemblies continued to meet. And in addition to fulfilling their regular academic obligations, male students trained to combat German machine guns and poison gas in World War I. Over a tenth of all students fell ill, and a dozen died—roughly in line with the 45,000 cases and 3,000 fatalities recorded in nearby San Francisco. Yet faculty and students started to abandon face coverings just a month after the initial outbreak. Football returned to campus shortly thereafter, even as the disease lingered throughout the winter.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...global-economy
It was not draconian as we saw in this covid situation left almost no discernible mark on the aggregate US economy.

Furthermore, masks were shown to be ineffective during the Spanish flu.
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Donger 10:31 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
His data is suspect about parts of the country being shut down with no specific differences stated. It's on par with alleging "It's the science." LOL

It wasn't "parts" of the "country" as a general sweeping claim but limited to some areas. Some schools , movie theaters, and other public places would be closed to prevent the spread but not entire states.
Students were asked to quarantine on campus but classes and assemblies continued to meet. And in addition to fulfilling their regular academic obligations, male students trained to combat German machine guns and poison gas in World War I. Over a tenth of all students fell ill, and a dozen died—roughly in line with the 45,000 cases and 3,000 fatalities recorded in nearby San Francisco. Yet faculty and students started to abandon face coverings just a month after the initial outbreak. Football returned to campus shortly thereafter, even as the disease lingered throughout the winter.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...global-economy
It was not draconian as we saw in this covid situation left almost no discernible mark on the aggregate US economy.

Furthermore, masks were shown to be ineffective during the Spanish flu.
Here you go:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...ic-coronavirus

It's not Lew Rockwell, sorry.
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Just Passin' By 11:36 AM 05-24-2021

"That's not something we're requiring here," says Jen Psaki when asked if visitors to the White House are required to prove vaccination status.

— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) May 24, 2021

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MahomesMagic 11:38 AM 05-24-2021
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
With half of the CDC and FDA not taking it that makes sense.
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